Ground Effect wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:55 am
mwillems wrote: ↑
Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:55 am
mwillems wrote: ↑
Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:40 pm
I did and then moved past it because that happened to everyone, Stroll certainly had plenty of bad luck. But Strolls poor performance compared to our better performing Norris was the difference that propelled us to third I feel. To put it another way, if Lando and Carlos raced for RP, they'd have wrapped up third, and if Perez and Stroll raced for us, I suspect we'd be right back with Renault and Stroll would lose his seat next year.
Listen, I'm not saying we haven't earned this current third spot, I'm saying we are not the third fastest car, but 4th in my opinion marginally ahead of Renault, but we probably are the third best Team
. The car is improving year on year and I like that, but it's been a long time since as a team we have been well rounded, competent and efficient (bar some pit stop slip ups). There is a more significant jump in team performance than there was in the car, and it should be noted. We are a strong organisation now, a well run and high performance outfit pointing in the right direction.
This was originally a reply to a fanboy, but Ross Brawn made the same points this week, that RP underperformed this year and Mclaren overperformed, putting it down to them being a well oiled team. So I thought I'd post it since Darth Piekius didn't want to think we got third as much as because of others poor performance as our own decent ones.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/ross-braw ... performed/
If we are honest, we did well to keep hanging in and around third for the past few races so that when we had a lucky break we were well positioned to take it. The RP is up there with the Merc and Red Bull in terms of car quality, but you cannot say the same for us, unfortunately.
100% spot on! I dare say even Checo on his best day hasn’t gotten the best out of that car, as impressive as he’s been. It’s definitely worth a lot more than 2 podiums. There’s a reason why Seb is happy to go there, someone of his calibre and relatively young age should be thinking winning team or bust. So McLaren have done well to have kept in the fight, with all the complications of preparing for next season and testing future parts etc. But so far, RP have underachieved, no doubt about it.
I guess I'm just being the devil's advocate here but ...
Don't forget , if you give back the penality points to RP, they'd be 2 points behind. Add to that, both RP drivers have gotten covid, something that wouldn't happen in a normal year. I'd have to say they've been ATLEAST average.
It is a perception or Opinion that another driver can get more out of the car. if you beleive that RP is the 2019 Merc. Then if we look at how he compares against Hamilton 2019 Bahrain...
Sergio PEREZ Bahrain 2020 1:28.322
Lewis Hamilton Bahrain 2019 1:28.190
Being a 10th off Hamilton when he was behind Ferrari in Q3, you know he's flat out, is pretty good.