2021 Alpine F1 Team

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alpine is probably alonso's last f1 team, so he isn't so critical about them

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radosav wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:28 am
alpine is probably alonso's last f1 team, so he isn't so critical about them
I think it should be the opposite if we assume it really is his last F1 team

IMO he isn't so critical because Alpine never promised any result for this season, it's a transition year before the new rules so this is not deceiving, but expected. Completely different to past seasons when some teams never reach expectations

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Andres125sx wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:26 am
radosav wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:28 am
alpine is probably alonso's last f1 team, so he isn't so critical about them
I think it should be the opposite if we assume it really is his last F1 team

IMO he isn't so critical because Alpine never promised any result for this season, it's a transition year before the new rules so this is not deceiving, but expected. Completely different to past seasons when some teams never reach expectations
Agreed, it's also difficult to be critical of others when you haven't been at your best. Sounds like you're blaming the car for your driving issues. In the Ferrari and McLaren years he was driving the wheels of the car.

Alpine might have told him to stay quiet about it.

On F1 timing, I kept looking for communication between Alonso and his race engineer. Didn't see any. Wonder where all that came from?

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I doubt Alpine aka Renault can deliver a car for Alonso to win in 2022 straight away because they cannot even fix the Renault duster road car injector issue for years.

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They are mostly cost cutting company. So no chance to win in 2022 and beyond. they eventually pull it from F1 before 2025 rule change.

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instead of wasting money in F1 they can build good road cars using those money.....

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:27 pm
I doubt Alpine aka Renault can deliver a car for Alonso to win in 2022 straight away because they cannot even fix the Renault duster road car injector issue for years.
You do know the 2 aren't the same right? Alpine f1 racing in Viry-Châtillon is really a stand alone company that make F1 PUs and have little to do with Renault roadcar division.

Btw, if got the names right, it would add to your credability.

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diffuser wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:25 pm
Andres125sx wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:26 am
radosav wrote:
Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:28 am
alpine is probably alonso's last f1 team, so he isn't so critical about them
I think it should be the opposite if we assume it really is his last F1 team

IMO he isn't so critical because Alpine never promised any result for this season, it's a transition year before the new rules so this is not deceiving, but expected. Completely different to past seasons when some teams never reach expectations
Agreed, it's also difficult to be critical of others when you haven't been at your best. Sounds like you're blaming the car for your driving issues. In the Ferrari and McLaren years he was driving the wheels of the car.
Yes, agree with that too

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Just a rumor from this F1 journalist?


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Wouter wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 2:45 pm
Just a rumor from this F1 journalist?

I like Ocon. I hope he gets a competitive car at Alpine over the next few seasons.

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Not using exzact words, but Alain Prost almost confirming that Alonso will get new steering in France by saying "he knows we expect him to performe better in France"
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Ocon is doing pretty good @ Alpine to be honest. Gasly has been claimed by AT and it's said Marko won't let Gasly leave for Alpine, so perhaps they preferred GP winner Gasly, but if they can't get their hands on him, perhaps Ocon is the best next thing for their desires/demands.

I would concider Alonso is intended to be their 'star' or 'rockstar' driver. The Hamilton/Verstappen of the team, and Ocon the fast second driver. Ocon has outperformed Alonso up untill now, which is no mean feat, but then again is it fair already AND is it fair at all to be beating a guy who had a major cicle accident just before season start of which Fernando still is having a jaw/cranial (upper) metal plate mounted.

Either way, Ocon has definately performed well and good enough to merit a stay. Not that he has anywhere else to go i'd be inclined to say.

I also believe Alonso is waiting for the 2022 season. Let's see how that unfolds.
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Ocon is perfect for Alpine.

But they need a top driver also. They had one with RIC, now they have ALO but even if he is back as a top driver, I don't see him be there for several years

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Jambier wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 9:35 am
Ocon is perfect for Alpine.

But they need a top driver also. They had one with RIC, now they have ALO but even if he is back as a top driver, I don't see him be there for several years
I seem to remember him, as a rookie, giving Perez a run for his money in 2017 and 2018.