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[Wouter]

For those of you ragging on Yuki having a big mouth, you most likely didn't watch the setting in which he made these remarks in Japanese. These translations have no context in which he was saying this. He was at the Honda Aoyama HQ on the final day before they were to close the venue for renovations and he was sat along side his junior carting coach. He himself said he had to be realistic about his chances but he was approaching the weekend no different than if he would have been if he were in the VCARB, but that with Red Bull the car is capable of a podium being that it IS THE TOP Red Bull team. His goal to be on the podium is because he feels if he can extract the potential of the RB21 and be comfortable with it, he should aim to be on the podium, considering how strong Max has been at Suzuka in prior years. He acknowledges he won't have the same set up as Max and that he wants to build up the weekend from FP1 and if he can be confident in the car then the results should come, and if that results in a podium it would be a fitting and ideal end for Honda, RBR and the fans. He feels the stars have aligned and there is no greater pressure than for this occasion and relishes in it, this is what he has been preparing himself for. He said himself there probably won't be another chance or experience that would top his nerves ever in his life and he can't guarantee a podium but that is what he has to aim for at this event. He asks for everyone to cheer him on and not to tell him to take it easy, but instead pile up the expectations on him. I hope he has his latte before the race and is wired up because he still is experiencing jetlag and the Red Bull show run was a good wake up exercise for him. Good luck Yuki, we're cheering you on.

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Thanks for the clarification @Ispano.

[AR3-GP]

His goal to be on the podium is because he feels if he can extract the potential of the RB21 and be comfortable with it, he should aim to be on the podium, considering how strong Max has been at Suzuka in prior years. He acknowledges he won't have the same set up as Max and that he wants to build up the weekend from FP1 and if he can be confident in the car then the results should come, and if that results in a podium it would be a fitting and ideal end for Honda, RBR and the fans.

Trying to go "independent" with setups is where most of the 2nd Red Bull drivers go wrong, but I'm hopefully wrong. Just going with the Max setup, with perhaps some front wing fine tuning seems like the safer way to get up to speed. Then you don't question if it's you or a "bad setup" which will leave you chasing your tail.

[Farnborough]

For those of you ragging on Yuki having a big mouth, you most likely didn't watch the setting in which he made these remarks in Japanese. These translations have no context in which he was saying this. He was at the Honda Aoyama HQ on the final day before they were to close the venue for renovations and he was sat along side his junior carting coach. He himself said he had to be realistic about his chances but he was approaching the weekend no different than if he would have been if he were in the VCARB, but that with Red Bull the car is capable of a podium being that it IS THE TOP Red Bull team. His goal to be on the podium is because he feels if he can extract the potential of the RB21 and be comfortable with it, he should aim to be on the podium, considering how strong Max has been at Suzuka in prior years. He acknowledges he won't have the same set up as Max and that he wants to build up the weekend from FP1 and if he can be confident in the car then the results should come, and if that results in a podium it would be a fitting and ideal end for Honda, RBR and the fans. He feels the stars have aligned and there is no greater pressure than for this occasion and relishes in it, this is what he has been preparing himself for. He said himself there probably won't be another chance or experience that would top his nerves ever in his life and he can't guarantee a podium but that is what he has to aim for at this event. He asks for everyone to cheer him on and not to tell him to take it easy, but instead pile up the expectations on him. I hope he has his latte before the race and is wired up because he still is experiencing jetlag and the Red Bull show run was a good wake up exercise for him. Good luck Yuki, we're cheering you on.

Thank you for this to give better understanding.

He's going to get a huge amount of support at track, even more so than usual.

Hopefully it will go well for him and the team, a points finish would be a great start to this change for Yuki.

[Cs98]

I never ever said that Lawson is not part of the problem. He very much is. It would be a much wiser choice to start with Tsunoda from the beginning, even though I expect him to only fair marginally better and dice with the midfield himself. He likely won’t put a dent in the other top teams anyhow, which is what Red Bull expects him to. When he fails, what then? Hadjar?

Even if they deflected slightly from Lawson, anyone can see that he won’t have a sniff at a top drive ever again and will only be a seat filler for the rest of his F1 career. But thanks for ”saving him”. And even if they tried to put the crosshairs on themselves, they are now trying to sell us that Newey had a part in it and other crap. They can try to deflect all they want, but the fact remains that other teams can build very good cars which two drivers can drive very quickly. Red Bull can’t, and they won’t succeed with anyone in the other seat if they cannot address that. So this mess will only repeat itself.

And just out of curiosity, since you laugh at The Race (which was just a random example) who is the ”judge and jury” of F1? Who did you have in mind?

The writers at The Race were pretty unanimous in their verdict that the problem lies in the RB management as soon as the news broke, and not so much in Lawson.

Okay so now Lawson is very much part of the problem. That wasn't the impression I got from your original post quoted above. But if you say so now I will accept it and conclude that we agree on that point.

As far as Lawson not getting a shot at a top seat again. Maybe that's not his potential? His performance wasn't top seat worthy, and no one is entitled to get a second shot at a top seat. What you describe as being a "seat filler" is one of the most lucrative jobs in the the world. And maybe it wasn't your intention, but the "seat filler" rhetoric is quite disrespectful to the drivers. Are Albon and Sainz "seat fillers" just because they got demoted from a top team and now drive a midfield car? They don't have a good career because they're at Williams? They're in F1! And so is Lawson. Let's not lose our heads with this silly rhetoric because you want to stick it to Horner and Marko, it's futile.

There is no judge and jury of F1. Everyone can make their case and then people can make up their own minds based on the merits of the arguments that are being presented. But presenting your opinions as "verdicts" is peak arrogance.

[Cs98]

For those of you ragging on Yuki having a big mouth, you most likely didn't watch the setting in which he made these remarks in Japanese. These translations have no context in which he was saying this. He was at the Honda Aoyama HQ on the final day before they were to close the venue for renovations and he was sat along side his junior carting coach. He himself said he had to be realistic about his chances but he was approaching the weekend no different than if he would have been if he were in the VCARB, but that with Red Bull the car is capable of a podium being that it IS THE TOP Red Bull team. His goal to be on the podium is because he feels if he can extract the potential of the RB21 and be comfortable with it, he should aim to be on the podium, considering how strong Max has been at Suzuka in prior years. He acknowledges he won't have the same set up as Max and that he wants to build up the weekend from FP1 and if he can be confident in the car then the results should come, and if that results in a podium it would be a fitting and ideal end for Honda, RBR and the fans. He feels the stars have aligned and there is no greater pressure than for this occasion and relishes in it, this is what he has been preparing himself for. He said himself there probably won't be another chance or experience that would top his nerves ever in his life and he can't guarantee a podium but that is what he has to aim for at this event. He asks for everyone to cheer him on and not to tell him to take it easy, but instead pile up the expectations on him. I hope he has his latte before the race and is wired up because he still is experiencing jetlag and the Red Bull show run was a good wake up exercise for him. Good luck Yuki, we're cheering you on.

I don't think anyone begrudges Yuki for having high goals in his mind, but maybe now is not the time to make them public and raise the expectations on himself, seeing what happened to Liam. Let's just get into Q2 or maybe even Q3 for a start, score some points.

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I don't think anyone begrudges Yuki for having high goals in his mind, but maybe now is not the time to make them public and raise the expectations on himself, seeing what happened to Liam. Let's just get into Q2 or maybe even Q3 for a start, score some points.

maybe, yeah, but the team said they signed him to be able to fight for the constructors championship, and that only works out if he is a steady podium contender anyway. So it's pretty clear what's expected, to be honest. Not from race one, but asap.

[Cs98]

I don't think anyone begrudges Yuki for having high goals in his mind, but maybe now is not the time to make them public and raise the expectations on himself, seeing what happened to Liam. Let's just get into Q2 or maybe even Q3 for a start, score some points.

maybe, yeah, but the team said they signed him to be able to fight for the constructors championship, and that only works out if he is a steady podium contender anyway. So it's pretty clear what's expected, to be honest. Not from race one, but asap.

The car doesn't look like a steady podium contender nevermind a WCC winner, so I highly doubt that is the expectation right now. Remember, if he finishes last amongst the top cars he is 8th.

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I don't think anyone begrudges Yuki for having high goals in his mind, but maybe now is not the time to make them public and raise the expectations on himself, seeing what happened to Liam. Let's just get into Q2 or maybe even Q3 for a start, score some points.

maybe, yeah, but the team said they signed him to be able to fight for the constructors championship, and that only works out if he is a steady podium contender anyway. So it's pretty clear what's expected, to be honest. Not from race one, but asap.

The car doesn't look like a steady podium contender nevermind a WCC winner, so I highly doubt that is the expectation right now. Remember, if he finishes last amongst the top cars he is 8th.

yeah, of course, but I wouldn't really expect this to lower the expectations - more on the contrary. Now the team doesn't need a solid 2nd guy anymore but a 2nd Verstappen. If Yuki isn't that, they'll look elsewhere.

[organic]

maybe, yeah, but the team said they signed him to be able to fight for the constructors championship, and that only works out if he is a steady podium contender anyway. So it's pretty clear what's expected, to be honest. Not from race one, but asap.

The car doesn't look like a steady podium contender nevermind a WCC winner, so I highly doubt that is the expectation right now. Remember, if he finishes last amongst the top cars he is 8th.

yeah, of course, but I wouldn't really expect this to lower the expectations - more on the contrary. Now the team doesn't need a solid 2nd guy anymore but a 2nd Verstappen. If Yuki isn't that, they'll look elsewhere.

The team is probably aware that doesn't exist or at the very least isn't realistic while Verstappen is at the team. Which top driver in their right mind would choose to join red bull ATM? Anyone they're able to get in the seat it's because they have no other good options, and a driver of the level that is seemingly required to handle the car is high enough that they'd have multiple good options if they were available

[venkyhere]

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... NGuUXmV3Hg

Q: (Tomás Slafer – DAZN Spain) Yuki, it’s easy to see that the Red Bull is a tricky car to drive. Do you know exactly what you need to do, or changing your driving skills to adapt to the RB21 or is it something you need to learn in the next few races?

YT: First of all, I didn’t feel yet the exact trickiness that the drivers are saying. I have a bit of an idea from the simulator but it’s always a bit different from simulator to real car, so I’ll see after FP1 if I either have to change set-up or…. But I don’t think I’ll have to change my driving style because in the end so far it works well I guess with VCARB, otherwise I wouldn’t be here wearing this logo. So I will just do whatever I was doing previously and I’ll just go step by step to build the pace and everything. Let’s see. Maybe I don’t have to do that. Maybe the car is straightaway good. I think Red Bull had pretty good performance last season, both cars, so I’m quite looking forward to it.

I have to say, that's probably finding place in the list of top 10 most 'cocky-BS' answers that an F1 driver has given as a reply. I wouldn't be surprised if he puts it in the wall during the weekend, if this is the attitude. Hope that doesn't happen.

[Macklaren]

i don't know -- seems like a perfectly reasonable response to me. esp if you watch the video of the Q&A

[Waz]

This will be unpopular but it's better for the car development if Yuki fails as badly as Liam. Just seems like the management aren't listening to Max

[AR3-GP]

This will be unpopular but it's better for the car development if Yuki fails as badly as Liam. Just seems like the management aren't listening to Max

Have you wondered why there are 9 teams that don't win each year? The issue is not that they aren't listening to Max. This "issue" is that another team did a better job with the tools and people at their disposal in the same timeframe. Do you think that Wache and company simply don't want Max or Yuki or Perez to have a car that they can drive and are stubborn? That's never really the case. The problem is typically you simply don't know how to get to the endpoint that you seek.

"F1 is hard" for lack of a better wording. Engineers can't just wake up and decide to build an RB19 or MCL39. There are often limitations in their own knowledge, creativity, and development methodologies that prevent them from doing so and then fans develop unrealistic expectations about how development works as if it could be so simple as to just "listen to the driver". Listening doesn't put good shapes in the wind tunnel or fix correlation problems. People who know how to solve a hard problem do...Given Red Bull's trajectory in the last year, they have been lacking in that department. They are not alone. There are many other teams in the same position of not knowing how to fix their problems or not knowing how to fix them faster than everyone else. If they could, they would be the ones that are winning.

[ringo]

Trying to go "independent" with setups is where most of the 2nd Red Bull drivers go wrong, but I'm hopefully wrong. Just going with the Max setup, with perhaps some front wing fine tuning seems like the safer way to get up to speed. Then you don't question if it's you or a "bad setup" which will leave you chasing your tail.

Only with Checo. Checo's driving style is very unorthodox, even before he left Racing Point this was known. And Checo also had a right to go independent with his setup because he know something was off with the car.
Checo also has on record setup the car better than Max quite a number of times. He has done so on most of the street circuits where the low speed performance is more critical. So there is merit for the others to try something different.
The other teammates were inexperienced and I think that is painting the wrong picture. Ricciardo did not have such issues when both were teammates.

Not to stir the pot, but I do feel Max does not want Yuki as teammates. It does add more pressure on Max and takes him out of his comfort zone. Even if yes Max is better, he cannot sleep on Yuki in Qualifying, and Max doesn't really know what to expect in terms of what Yuki may find in setups. Another thing to factor is accountability. One driver cannot underperform and then say the car was difficult when he has another quick driver in the second car.
Yuki is already saying he doesn't see where this car is tricky, it just has a little instability. This will create tension, because now it can look as if Max had an easy outlet for excuses; "oh the car is tricky, that's the best I can get out of it". Overall, this is good for Redbull. I believe top teams need to have two fast drivers to push each other and team. Only dominant cars work well with #2 drivers to win constructors championships. Redbull no longer have the luxury of a dominant car.

[Farnborough]

Agree and if anyone spends any time in R&D facilities, then they'll know just how much stuff doesn't make it.

Obvious success "edits" history such that we see and recall those ideas. There's myriad concept that never get seen, but inderpin the foundation of success.

F1 is a very raw, immediate and quite public arena in which to engage.