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[euv2]

Not sure about this new rear wing. Looks like it has less downforce than the McLaren and Ferrari wings, yet due to their U-shaped mainplane and flex they aren't giving up much on the straights at all (with or without DRS). Feels like RB has missed a step and it's hurting them a bit in slow and medium speed corners.

The 0.018 gap in qualy could be easily put down to the Ferrari rear wing flexing, Redbull have the stiffest rear wing by far of the top 4 teams and if the FIA is not going to ban these flexy RWs they need to get on the train too. Just +1 to 2kmph on straights could mean so much for the lap time.

RB still needs another 3 tenths (that's what a perfect MCL lap would have been I think) and maybe a 1 tenth off Ferrari too. Let's see what the actual qualifying brings, if some set up changes shift the pecking order.

[Bill]

Lawson will be out after summer break anyway. Maybe tsunoda finally gets his chance.

redbull should have stuck with checo the devil you know is better than the ones you dont.lawson was over a second slower than yuki in vegas ,that should have been a warning to redbull that he likes things perfect and cant handle challenging conditions. Its not that he is slow he is tiptoeing redbull needs to be manhandled by a bull fighter. Yuki at least in his junior series has demonstrated that he can throw a car around even though the Perelli tires wont leave with that in f1.lawson in q1 was 0.7 tenth slower that Max perez sometime was 1 sec so not the end but problem is the field is bunched up.

[Bill]

redbull should have done driver change next year were no driver has any lasting knowledge or some advantage from prior years

[TNTHead]

It doesn't help Lawson that we have sprint format this weekend. Still the gap is enormous. Reminds me of De Vries, if he doesn't up his pace it could/should be game over for him soon.

[Jdn1327]

Not sure about this new rear wing. Looks like it has less downforce than the McLaren and Ferrari wings, yet due to their U-shaped mainplane and flex they aren't giving up much on the straights at all (with or without DRS). Feels like RB has missed a step and it's hurting them a bit in slow and medium speed corners.

The 0.018 gap in qualy could be easily put down to the Ferrari rear wing flexing, Redbull have the stiffest rear wing by far of the top 4 teams and if the FIA is not going to ban these flexy RWs they need to get on the train too. Just +1 to 2kmph on straights could mean so much for the lap time.

RB still needs another 3 tenths (that's what a perfect MCL lap would have been I think) and maybe a 1 tenth off Ferrari too. Let's see what the actual qualifying brings, if some set up changes shift the pecking order.

Was there an article that I missed where this was confirmed? None of the top 4 teams changed anything on their rear wings and they had passed the new tests. I think it was alpine that was affected the most.?? Sorry not being combative just asking.

[ringo]

Saw the onboard. Car not turning in the first few corners while Ferrari have a much smoother ride it seems (Karun's analysis). Max really did everything he can to get a great result. Ferrari easily have a 2 tenth advantage over us imo, Lewis made a bad mistake in T14 as well as every one else in T4 gains time to him there. Insanely good quali from Max.

Max had better braking and front end generally. What spoiled Max lap was his mistake in the 123 turn.
That set him up to be behind the the ferrari for thw subsequent straight. Without that mistake he would have been on pole.

Lawson needs more time. Let's be fair, his practice sessions have been compromised.
Tsunoda was the best choice but redbull dont want Yuki's unpredictability and he's a little too fast. Might causw trouble if he feels he needs equal treatment or feels the need to challenge max and complicate a championship.

[euv2]

Don't know how accurate this is... but show the car characteristics and driving style pretty well. RB is still not great under traction out of slow speed.

[euv2]

Not sure about this new rear wing. Looks like it has less downforce than the McLaren and Ferrari wings, yet due to their U-shaped mainplane and flex they aren't giving up much on the straights at all (with or without DRS). Feels like RB has missed a step and it's hurting them a bit in slow and medium speed corners.

The 0.018 gap in qualy could be easily put down to the Ferrari rear wing flexing, Redbull have the stiffest rear wing by far of the top 4 teams and if the FIA is not going to ban these flexy RWs they need to get on the train too. Just +1 to 2kmph on straights could mean so much for the lap time.

RB still needs another 3 tenths (that's what a perfect MCL lap would have been I think) and maybe a 1 tenth off Ferrari too. Let's see what the actual qualifying brings, if some set up changes shift the pecking order.

Was there an article that I missed where this was confirmed? None of the top 4 teams changed anything on their rear wings and they had passed the new tests. I think it was alpine that was affected the most.?? Sorry not being combative just asking.

No, it's just an observation a lot of F1 tech people have made, there are a lot of posts under the Flexi wings thread. This is not the same flex as the one FIA have issued a TD on. This is the whole rear wing assembly flexing, nothing to do with the slot gap.

[f1isgood]

Saw the onboard. Car not turning in the first few corners while Ferrari have a much smoother ride it seems (Karun's analysis). Max really did everything he can to get a great result. Ferrari easily have a 2 tenth advantage over us imo, Lewis made a bad mistake in T14 as well as every one else in T4 gains time to him there. Insanely good quali from Max.

Max had better braking and front end generally. What spoiled Max lap was his mistake in the 123 turn.
That set him up to be behind the the ferrari for thw subsequent straight. Without that mistake he would have been on pole.

Lawson needs more time. Let's be fair, his practice sessions have been compromised.
Tsunoda was the best choice but redbull dont want Yuki's unpredictability and he's a little too fast. Might causw trouble if he feels he needs equal treatment or feels the need to challenge max and complicate a championship.

I am curious where the mistakes are. In F1-Tempo, all telemetry show Lewis losing time in T14 to Max, Oscar, Leclerc, Lando even if I am not mistaken. The Red Bull car simply doesn't turn as well (not my words but Karun's) and apparently Ferrari did.

[organic]

Saw the onboard. Car not turning in the first few corners while Ferrari have a much smoother ride it seems (Karun's analysis). Max really did everything he can to get a great result. Ferrari easily have a 2 tenth advantage over us imo, Lewis made a bad mistake in T14 as well as every one else in T4 gains time to him there. Insanely good quali from Max.

Max had better braking and front end generally. What spoiled Max lap was his mistake in the 123 turn.
That set him up to be behind the the ferrari for thw subsequent straight. Without that mistake he would have been on pole.

There was no mistake in s1. Red bull can't do much better in 1-2-3.

[Rikhart]

Saw the onboard. Car not turning in the first few corners while Ferrari have a much smoother ride it seems (Karun's analysis). Max really did everything he can to get a great result. Ferrari easily have a 2 tenth advantage over us imo, Lewis made a bad mistake in T14 as well as every one else in T4 gains time to him there. Insanely good quali from Max.

Max had better braking and front end generally. What spoiled Max lap was his mistake in the 123 turn.
That set him up to be behind the the ferrari for thw subsequent straight. Without that mistake he would have been on pole.

Lawson needs more time. Let's be fair, his practice sessions have been compromised.
Tsunoda was the best choice but redbull dont want Yuki's unpredictability and he's a little too fast. Might causw trouble if he feels he needs equal treatment or feels the need to challenge max and complicate a championship.

There wasn't any mistake by Verstappen.

[Cs98]

Very good lap. The progression through the sessions was exactly what you like to see, every lap significantly faster than the one previous. It was clear that there was more speed in the McLaren and Ferrari early, but Max just kept building the lap and I think he got more out of it than anybody else on the soft, improving by almost 7 tenths from the medium.

[Cs98]

There was no mistake in s1. Red bull can't do much better in 1-2-3.

There wasn't any mistake by Verstappen.

Hook, line, sinker.

[ringo]

Saw the onboard. Car not turning in the first few corners while Ferrari have a much smoother ride it seems (Karun's analysis). Max really did everything he can to get a great result. Ferrari easily have a 2 tenth advantage over us imo, Lewis made a bad mistake in T14 as well as every one else in T4 gains time to him there. Insanely good quali from Max.

Max had better braking and front end generally. What spoiled Max lap was his mistake in the 123 turn.
That set him up to be behind the the ferrari for thw subsequent straight. Without that mistake he would have been on pole.

Lawson needs more time. Let's be fair, his practice sessions have been compromised.
Tsunoda was the best choice but redbull dont want Yuki's unpredictability and he's a little too fast. Might causw trouble if he feels he needs equal treatment or feels the need to challenge max and complicate a championship.

There wasn't any mistake by Verstappen.

Watch the ghost comparison video to spot the mistake.
I know his fans thinks he is perfect and will baulk at the thought the he can make errors.
He lost the rear in the snail turn and caught it.
He has very good car control so it happened really fast, but it compromised his speed coming out of the snail.
Watch it again.
Edit: around 10 to 12s into the video.

[Rikhart]

There was no mistake in s1. Red bull can't do much better in 1-2-3.

There wasn't any mistake by Verstappen.

Hook, line, sinker.

I perfectly well know what is going on, but some corrections just need to be made.