2022 Alpine F1 Team

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politburo
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Re: 2022 Alpine F1 Team

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diffuser wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 00:24
It always boggles my mind on how F1 come up with these numbers...


https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg

They show that Alpine race paces is 1.06 off of RBR and they show McLaren .81 off.

Norris Number
L Time
1 17:03:43
2 1:23.764
3 2:03.177
4 1:35.832
5 1:23.689
6 2:05.944
7 1:23.699
8 P 1:44.807
9 8:45.307
10 1:22.338
11 P 1:49.723
12 10:15.845
13 1:26.757
14 1:27.066
15 1:27.257
16 1:26.882
17 1:26.604
18 1:26.804
19 1:27.563
20 1:27.096
21 1:27.089
22 1:26.812
23 1:28.514
24 P 1:32.556
25 2:08.897
26 1:28.202
27 1:26.093
28 1:44.820
29 P 2:0

Lap 13 to lap 23 as his long run pace on Mediums..


Alonso

4 1:23.486
5 1:57.534
6 P 1:37.345
7 13:30.501
8 1:22.752
9 1:54.960
10 P 10:40.134
11 2:09.573
12 1:27.032
13 1:26.605
14 1:26.549
15 1:26.595
16 1:26.652
17 1:26.629
18 1:26.840
19 1:26.465
20 1:26.494
21 1:26.560
22 1:26.370
23 1:26.718
24 1:26.589
25 1:26.750
26 1:54.693
27 P 2:16.634

Alonso's long runs , also on Mediums was on lap 12 to 26.

Alonso is doing mid 1:26s consistently and right to the end while Norris looks to not able to keep it up as his times start to drop off and then he pits.
The fact they have Ferrari within half a second has been especially mind-boggling. How they calculate is honestly a mystery, maybe they just want to give people hope as they read the article so they tune into the race. Alpine pace not far off Ferrari I just hope Alonso gets a podium, those large amounts of points could be great for the team.
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politburo
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I know the team were sceptical about Alonso's skill level and pace going forward but the guy clearly is still motivated to race and loves to race and is still really fast, his experience with all types of cars is also valuable in that he easily adapts from track to track.

It's sad he will no longer be at Alpine and nobody even knows who will be, apparently Gasly is no longer in the running?
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selvam_e2002
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Alonso at P10 lap time deleted. I don't have any footage in TV telecast so can some one share the details what happened?

Swed3121
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Joined: 03 Jul 2022, 18:26

Re: 2022 Alpine F1 Team

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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 15:27
diffuser wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 00:24
It always boggles my mind on how F1 come up with these numbers...


https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg

They show that Alpine race paces is 1.06 off of RBR and they show McLaren .81 off.

Norris Number
L Time
1 17:03:43
2 1:23.764
3 2:03.177
4 1:35.832
5 1:23.689
6 2:05.944
7 1:23.699
8 P 1:44.807
9 8:45.307
10 1:22.338
11 P 1:49.723
12 10:15.845
13 1:26.757
14 1:27.066
15 1:27.257
16 1:26.882
17 1:26.604
18 1:26.804
19 1:27.563
20 1:27.096
21 1:27.089
22 1:26.812
23 1:28.514
24 P 1:32.556
25 2:08.897
26 1:28.202
27 1:26.093
28 1:44.820
29 P 2:0

Lap 13 to lap 23 as his long run pace on Mediums..


Alonso

4 1:23.486
5 1:57.534
6 P 1:37.345
7 13:30.501
8 1:22.752
9 1:54.960
10 P 10:40.134
11 2:09.573
12 1:27.032
13 1:26.605
14 1:26.549
15 1:26.595
16 1:26.652
17 1:26.629
18 1:26.840
19 1:26.465
20 1:26.494
21 1:26.560
22 1:26.370
23 1:26.718
24 1:26.589
25 1:26.750
26 1:54.693
27 P 2:16.634

Alonso's long runs , also on Mediums was on lap 12 to 26.

Alonso is doing mid 1:26s consistently and right to the end while Norris looks to not able to keep it up as his times start to drop off and then he pits.
The fact they have Ferrari within half a second has been especially mind-boggling. How they calculate is honestly a mystery, maybe they just want to give people hope as they read the article so they tune into the race. Alpine pace not far off Ferrari I just hope Alonso gets a podium, those large amounts of points could be great for the team.
Podium seems a bit of a stretch. Predicted grid to me looks like
1.LEC 2.RUS 3.NOR 4.RIC 5.VER 6.GAS 7.ALO and the rest is way to complicated for my simple brain

politburo
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Alonso didn't set a time in Q3 tho. They really threw that away the Alpine team. A disappointing session and a very disappointing season overall.
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diffuser
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Location: Montreal

Re: 2022 Alpine F1 Team

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Swed3121 wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:11
politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 15:27
diffuser wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 00:24
It always boggles my mind on how F1 come up with these numbers...


https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fo ... /image.jpg

They show that Alpine race paces is 1.06 off of RBR and they show McLaren .81 off.

Norris Number
L Time
1 17:03:43
2 1:23.764
3 2:03.177
4 1:35.832
5 1:23.689
6 2:05.944
7 1:23.699
8 P 1:44.807
9 8:45.307
10 1:22.338
11 P 1:49.723
12 10:15.845
13 1:26.757
14 1:27.066
15 1:27.257
16 1:26.882
17 1:26.604
18 1:26.804
19 1:27.563
20 1:27.096
21 1:27.089
22 1:26.812
23 1:28.514
24 P 1:32.556
25 2:08.897
26 1:28.202
27 1:26.093
28 1:44.820
29 P 2:0

Lap 13 to lap 23 as his long run pace on Mediums..


Alonso

4 1:23.486
5 1:57.534
6 P 1:37.345
7 13:30.501
8 1:22.752
9 1:54.960
10 P 10:40.134
11 2:09.573
12 1:27.032
13 1:26.605
14 1:26.549
15 1:26.595
16 1:26.652
17 1:26.629
18 1:26.840
19 1:26.465
20 1:26.494
21 1:26.560
22 1:26.370
23 1:26.718
24 1:26.589
25 1:26.750
26 1:54.693
27 P 2:16.634

Alonso's long runs , also on Mediums was on lap 12 to 26.

Alonso is doing mid 1:26s consistently and right to the end while Norris looks to not able to keep it up as his times start to drop off and then he pits.
The fact they have Ferrari within half a second has been especially mind-boggling. How they calculate is honestly a mystery, maybe they just want to give people hope as they read the article so they tune into the race. Alpine pace not far off Ferrari I just hope Alonso gets a podium, those large amounts of points could be great for the team.
Podium seems a bit of a stretch. Predicted grid to me looks like
1.LEC 2.RUS 3.NOR 4.RIC 5.VER 6.GAS 7.ALO and the rest is way to complicated for my simple brain
Think that grid is right except that Gas 5th, Alonso will start 6th and Max 7th. Sainz, Perez and Hamilton's penalties don't count in appling Max's penalty. His penalty gets applied after removing those 3 from the grid. Then the 5 drivers behind him get pushed forward.

Also from FP2, McLaren's pace will start to drop off significantly after the 7th lap. Look to see the Alpines pass both McLaren by the end of the race.

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diffuser
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politburo wrote:
10 Sep 2022, 17:37
Alonso didn't set a time in Q3 tho. They really threw that away the Alpine team. A disappointing session and a very disappointing season overall.
I guess that makes one person. Don't think anyone at Alpine will be disappointed with 4th overall if they succeed at it.

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Oh come on Fernando lol. P4 start would be easy today I think. I didn't see why but his last lap was deleted
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Another disappointing qualifying.bBut it doesn't matter P4 or P7, if all goes well at the start he'll quickly make work of Gasly and the Mclarens, racepace looks good.

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Great article. I agree with Rossi. Piastri's loyalty (or lack therof) was taken with a naive view and that's why legal escapes were not closed off from the begining of taking this junior on board and investing so much in him.

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deployment problems for Alonso

Chanman141
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Waterleak issue the cause for ALO retirement.

draghixa
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Nothing can change the result if there is a mechanical failure but what surprise me is that when Alonso "WOW" the team, team says nothing wrong with the car. They think Alonso just want to park the car and go home?

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draghixa wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 16:46
Nothing can change the result if there is a mechanical failure but what surprise me is that when Alonso "WOW" the team, team says nothing wrong with the car. They think Alonso just want to park the car and go home?
Yeah, I'm not sure how the engineer responsed to Alonso's question that then Alonso ansswered with a "wow". The question was "are we having deployment problems?" He could have said we're having water temp issues.


Even if they did say that they had no issues....They did keep asking Alonso to change engine settings to try and resolve the issue, so maybe they said one thing but thier actions said another. You have to also consider that other teams are listening.


The good news is McLaren only made up 6 points.

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diffuser wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 17:06
draghixa wrote:
11 Sep 2022, 16:46
Nothing can change the result if there is a mechanical failure but what surprise me is that when Alonso "WOW" the team, team says nothing wrong with the car. They think Alonso just want to park the car and go home?
Yeah, I'm not sure how the engineer responsed to Alonso's question that then Alonso ansswered with a "wow". The question was "are we having deployment problems?" He could have said we're having water temp issues.


Even if they did say that they had no issues....They did keep asking Alonso to change engine settings to try and resolve the issue, so maybe they said one thing but thier actions said another. You have to also consider that other teams are listening.


The good news is McLaren only made up 6 points.
I saw onboard that Alonso's car's top speed was 318km/h at main straight without DRS, sounds way too slow for a Monza spec setup.