2022 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Oct 28 - 30

[ispano6]

Lucky for RBR they have their own sponsorship, any of the other teams would have to answer to sponsors for lost airtime

I'm sure sponsors will be very mad
https://i.imgur.com/TPgH1ze.png

Lost airtime is lost airtime, no matter where else it is seen. As you say, they are not going to make a big thing of it, but do you think they will be happy about it?

No one watches Sky outside of the UK anyway. ESPN doesn't really show much of the post-race SKY broadcast, and you have to be subscribed to ESPN3 to watch the post-race SKY broadcast. Why would you do that when the F1TV app is much better content-wise. I've really enjoyed James Hinchcliffe on the F1TV broadcast and feel they should have him for the last races and next season as well.

[Zynerji]

I'm sure sponsors will be very mad
https://i.imgur.com/TPgH1ze.png

Lost airtime is lost airtime, no matter where else it is seen. As you say, they are not going to make a big thing of it, but do you think they will be happy about it?

No one watches Sky outside of the UK anyway. ESPN doesn't really show much of the post-race SKY broadcast, and you have to be subscribed to ESPN3 to watch the post-race SKY broadcast. Why would you do that when the F1TV app is much better content-wise. I've really enjoyed James Hinchcliffe on the F1TV broadcast and feel they should have him for the last races and next season as well.

If we could get Hinchcliffe, Palmer and Buxton for 2023, I'd pay double for F1TV!

[BlueCheetah66]

I think the biggest disappointment of the weekend for me at least was the top speeds. I was kind of expecting some much higher top speeds. It's crazy to think about how much less drag the cars had pre-2017

[AR3-GP]

I think the biggest disappointment of the weekend for me at least was the top speeds. I was kind of expecting some much higher top speeds. It's crazy to think about how much less drag the cars had pre-2017

It doesn't make sense to have such a tall 8th gear because then you've compromised your top speed at all the sea level circuits just to have more headroom at 1 grand prix.

[MadMax]

Who's put a better drive together than Max this season?

I mean bias aside from myself, I dont think anyone else has been as good as Max these last 2 years when you look at the statistics over the course of the season.

You must have been sleeping last year! You would have lost a championship with a faster car had it not been for a genius called Masi…Hamilton managed races far better than Max who always drove erratically just to keep a position!

What’s changed this year? Red Bull brought a much faster car than anyone else (obviously through cheating the budget cap)…Max hasn’t gotten any better! His car has…

You could say Mercedes lost last year's finale with the same mistake as this race: Wrong tyre choice. Mercedes has shown that being conservative has gotten the better of them, or maybe it's a fault of being too sure of themselves. Whether it's the risk of track position or being on faster tires, Mercedes seems to just make the wrong call.

No, you couldn't say that at all. AD was lost because the RD changed the rules on the fly and did what Red Bull asked him to do. He lost his job because of it.

[chrisc90]

Looking back at the lap times of Riccardo, who knocked out 43 laps on his mediums and was still running the neigh on similar lap times down to the tenth/hundredth of a second compared to the early laps and the end laps on his medium stint.


From that photo we can see that the softs of Max were starting to drop off by .750 between laps 16/17 and lap 24. I think at that point RB knew that the medium was dropping in terms of lap time and made the right call to pit max and checo.

What is even more BAFFLING, is the reason Toto said the hard was a good tyre because Latifi was doing well on it. (according to a Sky Germany interview).

Lets look at Latifi and his swap onto the Hard tyre..



Lap 25 was the first run on the hard for Latifi. For reference Hamilton pitted on lap 30, giving a 4 lap data gathering from Latifi's hards for Mercedes to make the call....

latifi was doing a 1:25.4 on lap 17, losing a tenth each lap up to lap 20 where he ran a 1:26.661 . Lap 21 and lap 22 seemed a bit of a outlier with a longer time with a 27.1 and 26.4 respectively. So not sure what happened there whether there was traffic of a tyre concern.

Then it gets interesting when he swapped to the hard...

Lap 25,26,27 were a 1:25.078 and within a few hundredths of each lap on the hard with a 1:26.4 on lap 28. So Mercedes literally had 3 aps of hard tyre data in order to make the call that the tyre 'looked good' on Latifi's car. So the fresh hard on the Williams was 1/2 second faster than a soft that had run 22/23laps. That's hardly impressive delta on the tyres in order to make such a bold call like that.

Hamilton's tyres really didn't seem to drop off either, averaging low 1:23s and only marginally slower when Max pulled a little bit further away to clear the tow for Lewis. Once Lewis got back into Max's tow the times were exactly the same as he was doing early on. So I think the call that Toto claims for the swap is trying to be damage limitation for the fact they screwed the strategy up. They were probably more concerned of the fact that Max was 0.75-0.9 seconds faster on a fresh soft that their old medium on 28 laps. That difference is nearer to 1.1 seconds with Perez who pitted a lap earlier than Max.

Edit: Apologies if the pics appear small - they are the correct size if you click on them

[AR3-GP]

Lost airtime is lost airtime, no matter where else it is seen. As you say, they are not going to make a big thing of it, but do you think they will be happy about it?

No one watches Sky outside of the UK anyway. ESPN doesn't really show much of the post-race SKY broadcast, and you have to be subscribed to ESPN3 to watch the post-race SKY broadcast. Why would you do that when the F1TV app is much better content-wise. I've really enjoyed James Hinchcliffe on the F1TV broadcast and feel they should have him for the last races and next season as well.

If we could get Hinchcliffe, Palmer and Buxton for 2023, I'd pay double for F1TV!

I'd take some combination of Button, Danica, Rosberg, Palmer, Collins, and Hinchtown on a rotating basis. (and maybe even Scarbs and Windsor). But that's mainly because I like when people who have racing or engineering experience do the post race interrogations.

[MadMax]

I'm sure sponsors will be very mad
https://i.imgur.com/TPgH1ze.png

Lost airtime is lost airtime, no matter where else it is seen. As you say, they are not going to make a big thing of it, but do you think they will be happy about it?

No one watches Sky outside of the UK anyway. ESPN doesn't really show much of the post-race SKY broadcast, and you have to be subscribed to ESPN3 to watch the post-race SKY broadcast. Why would you do that when the F1TV app is much better content-wise. I've really enjoyed James Hinchcliffe on the F1TV broadcast and feel they should have him for the last races and next season as well.

Not many people in the UK watch Sky either, according to viewer figures. Generally a couple of million people out of a population of 67m. The Sky deal was a huge disservice to F1 and feels like Bernie was just saying "fcuk you boys" as he left.

[Gillian]

Lost airtime is lost airtime, no matter where else it is seen. As you say, they are not going to make a big thing of it, but do you think they will be happy about it?

No one watches Sky outside of the UK anyway. ESPN doesn't really show much of the post-race SKY broadcast, and you have to be subscribed to ESPN3 to watch the post-race SKY broadcast. Why would you do that when the F1TV app is much better content-wise. I've really enjoyed James Hinchcliffe on the F1TV broadcast and feel they should have him for the last races and next season as well.

If we could get Hinchcliffe, Palmer and Buxton for 2023, I'd pay double for F1TV!

Same! Add in Rosberg and Button.

[west52keep64]

What is even more BAFFLING, is the reason Toto said the hard was a good tyre because Latifi was doing well on it. (according to a Sky Germany interview).

It's baffling that without verifying it you are taking that Latifi thing seriously. Can anyone find Toto on the record saying that?

[Juzh]

Lost airtime is lost airtime, no matter where else it is seen. As you say, they are not going to make a big thing of it, but do you think they will be happy about it?

No one watches Sky outside of the UK anyway. ESPN doesn't really show much of the post-race SKY broadcast, and you have to be subscribed to ESPN3 to watch the post-race SKY broadcast. Why would you do that when the F1TV app is much better content-wise. I've really enjoyed James Hinchcliffe on the F1TV broadcast and feel they should have him for the last races and next season as well.

If we could get Hinchcliffe, Palmer and Buxton for 2023, I'd pay double for F1TV!

Edwards instead of Buxton and count me in.

Buxton was almost ok this race though, maybe he's gonna get better over time.

[chrisc90]

What is even more BAFFLING, is the reason Toto said the hard was a good tyre because Latifi was doing well on it. (according to a Sky Germany interview).

It's baffling that without verifying it you are taking that Latifi thing seriously. Can anyone find Toto on the record saying that?

They based their choice on Latifi being 'green' in the sectors.

[AR3-GP]

The C3 and the C4 one stop was the bread and butter strategy at the 2021 race here. That Merc was "surprised" is a bit odd.

[west52keep64]

What is even more BAFFLING, is the reason Toto said the hard was a good tyre because Latifi was doing well on it. (according to a Sky Germany interview).

It's baffling that without verifying it you are taking that Latifi thing seriously. Can anyone find Toto on the record saying that?

They based their choice on Latifi being 'green' in the sectors.

He literally doesn't mention Latifi in the entire interview, did you watch it?

EDIT: Right so George mentions it right at the start, also that's Sky UK (not Germany).

He simply says "when we say Latifi going green, and then Lewis".

[Sieper]

That they did not give Russell the yellow - red strategy is very hard to understand.