“It’s only Friday so we’ve not learned a huge amount, but we will dig into the data tonight. We know that we are not Friday specialists and we often take a step forward on Saturday and Sunday, which is the right way round for it to be. But we are where we are. A lot of people are bringing updates to their cars and we weren’t expecting to be setting the world on fire. We just need to learn what we can from the info we have and try to move forward tomorrow.”
Both drivers are a second adrift of Max's average long run pace, which is what it was in Miami race. So far, it doesn't look like the big upgrades have changed anything against a mildly updated RB19.AR3-GP wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 19:35https://racer.com/2023/06/02/hamilton-f ... ind-speed/
Russell:“It’s only Friday so we’ve not learned a huge amount, but we will dig into the data tonight. We know that we are not Friday specialists and we often take a step forward on Saturday and Sunday, which is the right way round for it to be. But we are where we are. A lot of people are bringing updates to their cars and we weren’t expecting to be setting the world on fire. We just need to learn what we can from the info we have and try to move forward tomorrow.”
Cue the firing squad.We're open minded what we're going to get, we just want to understand what are the gaps, where are we quick, where we slow, what do we need to work on, as we are expecting to do more work. So really just getting a clear direction.
I was curious to discover if the changes have made any significant progress towards Hamilton's handling concerns and Toto's comment about the "nasty rear".mendis wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 19:46Both drivers are a second adrift of Max's average long run pace, which is what it was in Miami race. So far, it doesn't look like the big upgrades have changed anything against a mildly updated RB19.AR3-GP wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 19:35https://racer.com/2023/06/02/hamilton-f ... ind-speed/
Russell:“It’s only Friday so we’ve not learned a huge amount, but we will dig into the data tonight. We know that we are not Friday specialists and we often take a step forward on Saturday and Sunday, which is the right way round for it to be. But we are where we are. A lot of people are bringing updates to their cars and we weren’t expecting to be setting the world on fire. We just need to learn what we can from the info we have and try to move forward tomorrow.”
when asked how the car felt after FP2...It's inconclusive but tomorrow is another day for learning."The car feels like the car"
So it could be a case of everyone improving at a similar rate to Mercedes.“It’s impressive to see the improvements that everyone seems to have made all around us. You look at (Esteban) Ocon — the Alpines are doing great, you saw the Aston Martin was second just right behind the Red Bull which is really, really impressive. So it’s not going to be easy, that’s for sure.”
All teams run asymmetrical set ups everywhere. We have on karts, in Formula Fords, in vintage road racing, in Spec Miata, and pro GT stuff. I really can’t think we’re we’ve ever run a symmetrical set up on anything.chrisc90 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 21:12Fairly open from Shovlin there really. Still sounds like there is a lot of work to do on and to the car in future and a lot more further understanding of how it reacts, and definitely getting a lot of data/understanding for next years car.
Rather interesting RE the geometry and camber for different corners where it would be different for right or left handers and high/low speed, I wonder how many other teams do similar.
At present I think the upgrades are still pretty much where they were at present, or at least in line with the others around them with their upgrades. Come tomorrow we will get a understanding of the pace of the car on Quali day and how it plays out in race pace.
I dont think it will be all doom and gloom and they will have brought some pace to the track to work on.
No knowledge is wasted. It may not be used on this car, but it is in the bank for future use if needed.chrisc90 wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 21:12Fairly open from Shovlin there really. Still sounds like there is a lot of work to do on and to the car in future and a lot more further understanding of how it reacts, and definitely getting a lot of data/understanding for next years car.
Rather interesting RE the geometry and camber for different corners where it would be different for right or left handers and high/low speed, I wonder how many other teams do similar.
At present I think the upgrades are still pretty much where they were at present, or at least in line with the others around them with their upgrades. Come tomorrow we will get a understanding of the pace of the car on Quali day and how it plays out in race pace.
I dont think it will be all doom and gloom and they will have brought some pace to the track to work on.
They are so far off in S3 with the medium df wing I don't think they will use it. You also have to take account tire wear on this high degradation circuit, so I expect to see the heavier wing for qualifying and race. Should Hamilton decide to split the setups and run the lighter wing then he'll only have himself to blame if it doesn't work out for him. That car needs all the downforce at the rear it can get. That should be obvious by now and I don't even know why they would be playing around with it.Juzh wrote: ↑02 Jun 2023, 22:11Hamilton did 2 laps on softs, second one was in lower power mode and tyres were degraded by then, so not optimal, still he managed to gain around 2 tenths on himself by tidying up T10 and T12 (still the rear was lose here) and T14. I'd say with a decent final sector on his first lap he'd be in the Ocon range and ahead of Russell definitely. So maybe medium wing is preferred?
Look at how much power difference there is between strat 2 (1:14.549) and strat 3 (1:15.124). Very crude estimate at around 6-7 tenths lost on straights on second lap:
https://i.imgur.com/ToUej8K.png
