Are F1 penalties still adequate?

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Just_a_fan wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 9:23 pm
RZS10 wrote:
Sat Sep 16, 2023 8:00 pm
Anyone here?
No penalties to discuss at the moment. Presumably with blocking now being OK, there will be many fewer penalties to discuss.
Blocking was deemed okay since Spain when Russell crashed into Hamilton on a qualy lap. Most all incidents since then have been unpunished. Sainz had several of them. Singapore is not a flash point. It’s consistent with the past.

Only Leclerc has been hit twice, but perhaps this is the universe correcting itself after his penalty free 2019 season….

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Sainz in Canada, Yuki at the Dutch GP… It’s a little suspicious. Non one, not two, but THREE different instances in the same session and not a single penalty. C’mon.

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In my opinion, as long as the FIA does not implement proper QA and QC for how penalties are applied, it's just a lottery.
I mean, there should be clear rules for the penalties applied to each infraction, for example: Causing a collision: 5s, if you cause a DNF with said collision, then it's 10s. There should be a Standard Operating Procedure for that sort of stuff, and all penalties applied during a weekend should be reviewed, with the conclusions retrofed into the procedure to continuously improve it.

I know not all incidents are black or white, but without even making an effort to improve that aspect, we can never expect to have any sort of consistence, especially considering events like Abu Dhabi 2021, where even clear regulations aren't followed in order to "improve the show".

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/pere ... /10521766/

Perez penalized for colision with Albon, Perez keeps his 8th place.

Aka "5s penalties are meaningless" exhibit 2390873.

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Causing a collision should carry a far harsher penalty in my opinion. Irrespective of outcomes, it can be expensive for other teams, and outright dangerous for drivers. 5s is pathetic.
Felipe Baby!

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Points to note from Japan.

Intra-team battles/offences need to be dealt with the same as any other offence.
+5 seconds isnt enough still. This has been talked about on the post-race show on F1Tv commentators.
Sending a car out after its retired to serve a penalty before the next race should be tightened up. I imagine we'll see a 97% minimum race coverage will be dropped in like Le-Mans for penalties to be considered 'served'

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Albon: "The drivers don't really learn anything [from the penalties] because the penalties aren't severe enough."