2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Back to normal proceedings ... or will it?
HuggaWugga !

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Lando's 1st Win... :D :D

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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Any lap time predictions? I think a 1:28.5 should be possible in dry conditions.

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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With the humiliation of Singapore, Red Bull would be looking for vengeance here. If they have been unaffected by TDs, then it could be violence by Max.

Ferrari seems rejuvenated and McLaren has made progress. Would be great fight again.

Hopefully Yuki can have a great time in Japan with their upgraded car.

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I expect Ferrari and AMR to be nowhere this weekend. Last two circuits have been unusual in terms of characteristics which gives illusion that Ferrari's woes are sorted.

Max wins with Lando and Piastri rounding out podium. There is a fight for pole that Norris narrowly takes but RB superiority in race trim returns

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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RB should just super sandbag during all FP sessions then blow everyone away come qualifying. Be funny.

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chrisc90 wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:22 pm
RB should just super sandbag during all FP sessions then blow everyone away come qualifying. Be funny.
This is pretty much what they've been doing in FP with engine modes recently. If we can see this in the telemetry other teams on the grid will aswell. No one will be surprised.

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organic wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:42 pm
I expect Ferrari and AMR to be nowhere this weekend. Last two circuits have been unusual in terms of characteristics which gives illusion that Ferrari's woes are sorted.

Max wins with Lando and Piastri rounding out podium. There is a fight for pole that Norris narrowly takes but RB superiority in race trim returns
suzuka is a power track like spa and silverstone i think ferrari will do fine.

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Bill wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 2:29 am
organic wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:42 pm
I expect Ferrari and AMR to be nowhere this weekend. Last two circuits have been unusual in terms of characteristics which gives illusion that Ferrari's woes are sorted.

Max wins with Lando and Piastri rounding out podium. There is a fight for pole that Norris narrowly takes but RB superiority in race trim returns
suzuka is a power track like spa and silverstone i think ferrari will do fine.
Ferrari aero isn't stable on high yaw angle which happens every time you have a long radius corner, tire squirt gets pulled in by the inwash which totally ruins the floor downforce. Initially journalists reported this as Ferrari having difficulty when strong sidewinds are around, but really it's a high yaw angle.

Silverstone is a low DF circuit while Suzuka is a medium to high:

Suzuka 2022 rear wings:


Silverstone 2022 rear wings:


I don't think Ferrari will be fine but it won't be Zandvoort bad.

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organic wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:42 pm
I expect Ferrari and AMR to be nowhere this weekend. Last two circuits have been unusual in terms of characteristics which gives illusion that Ferrari's woes are sorted.

Max wins with Lando and Piastri rounding out podium. There is a fight for pole that Norris narrowly takes but RB superiority in race trim returns

:D [-o< [-o< :D

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Max said because he finished 20 seconds behind in Singapore, he's aiming for 20 seconds ahead of the pack in Suzuka.

Barring mechanical failure, don't see why not.

I'm with everyone else in expecting a quick McLaren. Alonso will probably be in the mix as well.

Ferrari, I don't know. The new floor might help but the car just has inherent issues with a track like this.

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Re: 2023 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, Sep 22 - 24

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First from the pitlane..


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JPower wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2023 7:12 pm
Max said because he finished 20 seconds behind in Singapore, he's aiming for 20 seconds ahead of the pack in Suzuka.
Where'd he say that?

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organic wrote:
Mon Sep 18, 2023 8:42 pm
I expect Ferrari and AMR to be nowhere this weekend. Last two circuits have been unusual in terms of characteristics which gives illusion that Ferrari's woes are sorted.

Max wins with Lando and Piastri rounding out podium. There is a fight for pole that Norris narrowly takes but RB superiority in race trim returns
I think Ferrari will be OK in Qualy trim but have no chance in the race as their tyres get destroyed or managed.
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