2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Unless they provide a title winning car ( not evan a challenger) everything else is failure.

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Zynerji wrote:
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Wed Feb 07, 2024 11:55 pm
How does everyone see 2024 play out between Carlos and Charles? I have felt at times over the last couple of years that Carlos tends to race more for Team Sainz than for Team Scuderia. I think this year will show a lot in regard to that dynamic. He now has no ties to Ferrari, he doesn't need to play nice, he doesn't need to win anyone over at the team... it could get interesting. Will they be allowed to race each other? How will team orders be issued?
Think 2016 Nico Rosberg.

He has been the safer driver thinking about the Long game and getting points. If that is not team Ferrari, what is?

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(Rumor) Andrew Benson from the BBC is suggesting Pierre Wache might move from RBR to Ferrari.
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mythr-ran-dire wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 7:59 am
(Rumor) Andrew Benson from the BBC is suggesting Pierre Wache might move from RBR to Ferrari.
It's been covered in its own thread viewtopic.php?t=31546

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Vasseur making a clear break from anything Binotto related, suits and livery included...
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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#DwarvesAreNaturalSprinters
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Vanja #66 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:34 pm


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF-A7TJXIAA ... ame=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF-JawFW4AA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF-Jat4W8AA ... name=large

Vasseur making a clear break from anything Binotto related, suits and livery included...
There's not a trend of white giving a dog of a car for Ferrari? :lol: :?

P.S.: Only joking and hoping for it to not be a real curse. I'm not sure I will survive another year of "Verstappen's nap".

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2024 1:34 pm


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF-A7TJXIAA ... ame=medium

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF-JawFW4AA ... name=large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF-Jat4W8AA ... name=large

Vasseur making a clear break from anything Binotto related, suits and livery included...
Can't they have a full red suit with logos, instead of those hideous yellow/white lines running across the length of suit?

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Will the car red be same as the race suits ? I was hoping they go back to bright red from 2000’s

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If the social post of the Rim cover is anything to go by (Predominately Red and a White/Yellow outline), it’s almost certain they’ll feature white and yellow likes somewhere along the livery.

Just hoping we have less exposed carbon… lots of people loved the livery on SF23 but I thought the random cut outs of exposed carbon looked silly. Hoping for a glossier shade of red too.

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A teaser for the car launch, shows the front suspension. However, not sure if its the new car.


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It's the new car, you don't make a whole new engine cover just for a photo shoot. Their post on instagram shows red paint on the rear wing main plane with both stripes.

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And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Ohh i see yellow and white stripes on the rear wing, hopefully the livery isn't too stripey :? :? :? :?

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Vanja #66 wrote:
Thu Feb 01, 2024 6:37 pm
Now that we have a de facto confirmation coming from Merc factory, it's worth pointing out a few things.

The most important aspect of this transfer is Hamilton's age. Starting his first season with Ferrari, he will be 40. Is he past his prime? Hard to argue he is still peaking. His 2022 was downright depressing even for those who are not his fans, making his 2023 all the more impressive (and equally disappointing from Russell, who wasn't just unlucky more often, but outright beaten) so why make this move?

At his age and having achieved what he already achieved, it's incredibly hard to keep the focus and motivation as high as necessary to compete with the young guns. Just ask Djoković, Federer and Nadal (although tennis is a much more physical sport than F1) how much it takes... In Motorsport, switching teams is like falling in love again, it's refreshing, intriguing, invigorating, nerve racking - everything it takes to get the blood flowing and energising yourself. Switching teams near the end of a career is possibly a bit like mid-life crisis, but that just means it could make that much bigger difference.

Will Hamilton lose anything with this move? Absolutely not. Even if he gets slammed by Leclerc the way Rosberg slammed Schumi, no one can take away all his achievements so far and let's be honest - that's not really gonna happen. If he wins a few races, he will do it after (most likely) 3 or 4 years since his last win and it will be amazing. If he gets to win the title, he will be glorified all over the world and truly establish himself as the undisputed GOAT.

Will Leclerc lose anything with this move? Absolutely not. Even if he gets slammed by Hamilton, he will be slammed by the most successful F1 driver ever and let's be honest - that's not really gonna happen. If he is realistically about equal overall with a 40-year-old Hamilton past his prime, it will show he's good but should learn what needs to be improved. And if he is better than Hamilton and gets a title with Hamilton as team mate, it will show his greatness and level for all to see and no one could say he just had the best car.

Will Ferrari lose anything with this move? Absolutely not. Even the pay Hamilton will get will be turned into profit with strong merchandising efforts. If Hamilton is better and possibly wins his 8th title with Ferrari, it will be an amazing story and a truly historical moment. If Leclerc is better and possibly wins his 1st title with Hamilton as team mate, it will show Ferrari made the right call in trusting the future of the team to him.

Additionally, with Hamilton onboard Ferrari will get a decent boost of political power (especially in GB), which should not be underestimated. His move will also be a strong nod to all the engineers and other staff Ferrari is hiring and it seems the things are already well in motion. Vasseur has been rebuilding the team quietly and this is a big wing for him internally and externally. Many things will fall in line a lot easier now. Finally, they are dealing a huge blow to one of their big rivals and have most likely effectively taken them out of the future title fights for a while.

As far as they are all concerned - it's a win-win-win situation. Will there be a clear number 1? With a 7-time-champion joining and a long-term committed young prodigy you'd be daft to do it. And the people without the right understanding and awareness of team dynamics are no longer in Ferrari.

Where does this leave Sainz? No idea and I hope he finds a place where he gets the status he so much desires. He should be mindful of how he brings his Maranello tenure to a close, it might just make or break the rest of his career.
Quite optimistic view, not surprising from a Leclerc fan who frequently negates reality.


Lewis is the goat, he´ll be #1, no way he´s signing with any team without that clause into the contract, let alone with a young driver who only achieved some victories but no titles, and not even a title fight yet

Leclerc has been #1 in Ferrari forever, he comes from Ferrri Academy and Ferrari has always favoured him, even when Sainz was up in the table. There has been some clamorous evidences, like the team risking a great result at home race, only to allow him fighting Sainz, when at previous GP Sainz was not allowed to fight Leclerc despite being up in the table


Now get both of them togheter... and the bomb is armed, now it´s just a matter of time that it explodes.

Leclerc fans will probably assume he will beat a 40 yo Lewis. Lewis fans will probably assume he will beat a young driver who is not delivering as much as it was expected. IMHO both of them are overrated drivers, to me Lewis is one of the best on the grid, but not to the point of being the most succesfull driver ever. And Charles is a very talented driver, period, but he miss consistency, he couldn´t even beat Sainz consistenly in this 3 years, and Sainz is far from one of the big talents of the grid, so probably Leclers isn´t either


That on track, here on F1T this thread will become funny, then boring, then unbearable. I´ll be around here for the funny part, then leave :mrgreen:

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Andres125sx wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:16 am
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Quite optimistic view, not surprising from a Leclerc fan who frequently negates reality.
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Lewis is the goat, he´ll be #1, no way he´s signing with any team without that clause into the contract,
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... this thread will become funny, then boring, then unbearable.
With posts like this you make the thread unbearable before it becomes funny.

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The car launches today and this is what we have to read :-$