2024 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, April 05 - 07

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Wet race hopefully.

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Epic track and racing in ANY condition. I do miss Fuji tho...

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Dry quali / Wet, interchangeable race would be ideal :D I want to see how the cars compare at full pelt!

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organic wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:40 pm
Wet race hopefully.
Yep...I anyways record it and do not get up because of this...so a 2h red flag is no issue.
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Wet weekend would be awesome. Would love to see the pecking order in wet conditions and the better drivers usually make their presence known in the rain. 8) Bring it. =D>
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Chuckjr wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:22 pm
Wet weekend would be awesome. Would love to see the pecking order in wet conditions and the better drivers usually make their presence known in the rain. 8) Bring it. =D>
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basti313 wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 4:17 pm
organic wrote:
Mon Apr 01, 2024 3:40 pm
Wet race hopefully.
Yep...I anyways record it and do not get up because of this...so a 2h red flag is no issue.
Yep. Usually record this one, for that very reason.

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Red Bull is just toying with everyone now. They have a 2nd pair of upper engine cover intakes. While the rest of the field is working its tail off to copy the RB18. As we see with Aston Martin. What does this say about the sport ? I don't know. With all the accumulated knowledge of the last 20 years and one team can just run away with it.

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TeamKoolGreen wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:48 pm
Red Bull is just toying with everyone now. They have a 2nd pair of upper engine cover intakes. While the rest of the field is working its tail off to copy the RB18. As we see with Aston Martin. What does this say about the sport ? I don't know. With all the accumulated knowledge of the last 20 years and one team can just run away with it.

Can't blame RBR for doing a good job... I'm a Mclaren fan, so you can imagine how I feel...

I would love it if Mclaren can have a few years of dominance...

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De Wet wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:53 pm
TeamKoolGreen wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:48 pm
Red Bull is just nd one team can just run away with it.
Can't blame RBR for doing a good job... I'm a Mclaren fan, so you can imagine how I feel...

I would love it if Mclaren can have a few years of dominance...
Yeah. Can't blame them. Its just hard to fathom how one team can be this much further ahead. For a minute it looked like Dan Fallows carried the RB secrets with him to Aston. And that was why the car made such a jump in 2023. But it didn't really turn out that way. Then McLaren made a huge jump. They are so close yet so far too.

Then we have Red Bull copying design ques from Aston and Mercedes. It's all kinda odd. The Ferrari domination era and the Mercedes domination era were just far easier to parse out.

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TeamKoolGreen wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 2:15 pm
De Wet wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:53 pm
TeamKoolGreen wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 1:48 pm
Red Bull is just nd one team can just run away with it.
Can't blame RBR for doing a good job... I'm a Mclaren fan, so you can imagine how I feel...

I would love it if Mclaren can have a few years of dominance...
Yeah. Can't blame them. Its just hard to fathom how one team can be this much further ahead. For a minute it looked like Dan Fallows carried the RB secrets with him to Aston. And that was why the car made such a jump in 2023. But it didn't really turn out that way. Then McLaren made a huge jump. They are so close yet so far too.

Then we have Red Bull copying design ques from Aston and Mercedes. It's all kinda odd. The Ferrari domination era and the Mercedes domination era were just far easier to parse out.
Well, basically success in F1 consists of 3 parameters: PU, aero & mechanical platform, driver. Until the BC there was a fourth: heaps of money.

At any given time the top teams had top drivers with not much in between them; some of them peaked at different moments or within different rules/concepts, but they were certainly not clowns.

Where Fer and MB mainly leaned on a superior PU, RB has always been more aero/grip focussed. Even with a far worse PU they were getting close to Fer & MB in that respect, and were able to nick some wins here and there.

So without the infinite amounts of money that can be spent, combined with an engine freeze where parity seems to have been met (except for Alpine), the current regulations were always going to favor RB, as over the years they obtained such an exceptional knowlegde & efficiency on aero/grip development. Fer seems not too far behind, MB however seems to maybe have been a little complacent on that matter. And the panic surrounding that for 2,5yrs already doesn't help them really.
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