Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by Thunder18 » Mon May 14, 2018 9:40 am

RZS10 wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:09 pm
Was the crash so severe or is the back end of the STR flimsy (potentially compromised bc of late PU change) ?
Turn 9 is near flat out depending on car/driver with not a lot of runoff area too. Fairly substantial crash and lucky to only come away bruised.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by BrunoH » Mon May 14, 2018 10:47 am

i was surprised it was so fragil to be honest..

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by Big Tea » Mon May 14, 2018 11:31 pm

BrunoH wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 10:47 am
i was surprised it was so fragil to be honest..
They had a plank nailed underneath holding it together.
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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by roon » Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 am

iichel wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:39 pm
Poor car
right click -> "open in new tab" for more size

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_kVsVXcAI ... name=large
Looks like the turbo fell out.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by AJI » Tue May 15, 2018 2:14 am

roon wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 am
iichel wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:39 pm
Poor car
right click -> "open in new tab" for more size

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_kVsVXcAI ... name=large
Looks like the turbo fell out.
Woah doctor... That is impressive!

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by GhostF1 » Tue May 15, 2018 3:22 am

AJI wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 2:14 am
roon wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 am
iichel wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:39 pm
Poor car
right click -> "open in new tab" for more size

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_kVsVXcAI ... name=large
Looks like the turbo fell out.
Woah doctor... That is impressive!
I must be blind, I can only see the exhaust. Where's the turbo?

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by Singabule » Tue May 15, 2018 3:28 am

roon wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 am
iichel wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:39 pm
Poor car
right click -> "open in new tab" for more size

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_kVsVXcAI ... name=large
Looks like the turbo fell out.
Exhaust only, engine is deeper. The turbo wont fell out if the engine not thrown.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by Hino » Tue May 15, 2018 7:37 pm

roon wrote:
Tue May 15, 2018 12:03 am
iichel wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:39 pm
Poor car
right click -> "open in new tab" for more size

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc_kVsVXcAI ... name=large
Looks like the turbo fell out.
When the rear end came off, it pulled off the turbine/wastegate exhaust manifolds. If your familiar with the Honda PU architecture, they use the split turbo design with the MGU-H in the middle, compressor/turbine hang off the ICE. If you look closely you can the spindle from the gearbox protruding.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by HPD » Wed May 16, 2018 7:07 pm

The accident recorder provided the following data. The impact with the tail ahead was 110 km / h. A delay of 25G was measured. On impact, the tail of the Toro Rosso hooked up with the Tecpro elements of the barrier. The car broke apart between engine and transmission.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... p-spanien/

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by Owen.C93 » Wed May 16, 2018 11:14 pm

So what are the thoughts on the pull rod suspension layout. It's very rare we get to see how they are designed anymore as they're deep in the gearbox casing.

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It looks like they have 2 connections between the left and right hand torsion bars. The lower one could be the damper, and the top one looks like an anti-roll bar, but the way it's setup is backwards so it looks like it would induce roll?
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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by roon » Thu May 17, 2018 12:15 am

The topmost one looks to be a rigid link that locates the distal/immobile end of the torsion springs. Changing the length of that member could alter ride height; whether it is changed out frequently or a permanent structural member, I don't know. Further in from that piece is the heave element. ARB might be tucked away in there but I can't make it out.

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by ScrewCaptain27 » Thu May 17, 2018 7:31 am

The wishbones also look like they have a very thin internal main structure with a hollow aerofoil cover.
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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by FrukostScones » Thu May 17, 2018 8:01 am

Hino wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 12:08 am
RZS10 wrote:
Sat May 12, 2018 12:09 pm
Was the crash so severe or is the back end of the STR flimsy (potentially compromised bc of late PU change) ?
Can't be surprised, its the gearbox and rear suspension. Although they did have to modify the gearbox to bolt on the Honda PU, I wonder if it means anything?
the spacers were a bit fragile :mrgreen:
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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by HPD » Wed May 23, 2018 3:59 pm

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Re: Toro Rosso STR13 Honda

Post by bigblue » Wed May 23, 2018 10:14 pm

https://www.crash.net/f1/feature/896664 ... -wednesday
Toro Rosso has brought a new floor update to Monaco ahead of the race weekend. Gasly will get use of it from FP1 on Thursday, but teammate Brendon Hartley will not get the update until final practice on Saturday.