2018 Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal June 8-10

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ofcourse autosport.com wants money next week for :
Why has F1 become so boring , by ......

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balintgabulya wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:25
I was so excited for this race, and then literally nothing happened.

The cars have just outgrown this track. It is too small, despite the 3 DRS sectors, it seem like every one had it all the time. With midfield being almost lapped by the slowest top3 car, there is just no pressure from them, they lose 1s per lap, that is crazy much.

Only good with this race is Vettel catching up to Hamilton in the WDC. Hopefully we will have some close racing in the coming races.
No chance, it's impossible to pass in the French car park, maybe Silverstone can offer a good race, Hockenheim maybe, Austria likely will be more of the same boring, then Hungary is impossible to pass. The only way these races can be interesting is if the weather plays a factor, otherwise unless someone takes a big step forward, it's just going to be business as usual.
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It is getting more boring by the week...
Any ideas on how to make it interesting in the short term?

My suggestions, either increase the DRS zones to 3sec or mandate the use of all 3 tyres during the race.
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Nonserviam85 wrote:It is getting more boring by the week...
Any ideas on how to make it interesting in the short term?
Change the tyre pressures again
Always find the gap then use it.

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Nonserviam85 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:38
It is getting more boring by the week...
Any ideas on how to make it interesting in the short term?
Verstappen needs to crash again.

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Nonserviam85 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:38
It is getting more boring by the week...
Any ideas on how to make it interesting in the short term?

My suggestions, either increase the DRS zones to 3sec or mandate the use of all 3 tyres during the race.
bring a soft / medium / hard.

Now all the tyres where softs actually.

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Bill_Kar wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:23
LM10 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:07
Redbull was very strong on a power track. At no time Hamilton was able to do a real attempt on overtaking Ricciardo. The traction of this Redbull is out of this world.
They have done an amazing job and it seems their car gets faster every weekend.
Most certainly. They do manage the tires as well. So, do they stick with Renault now? :mrgreen:
Well, the teams will have detailed information on PU performances. Just by looking at MCLaren and Toro Rosso it seems that Honda made a good step forward again. But I think it's more up to McLaren itself making a horrible job than the Renault being a bad engine. :)
MCLaren is shockingly slow. They've almost been on Williams level today. Sauber was clearly faster.
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maxxer wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:43
Nonserviam85 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:38
It is getting more boring by the week...
Any ideas on how to make it interesting in the short term?

My suggestions, either increase the DRS zones to 3sec or mandate the use of all 3 tyres during the race.
bring a soft / medium / hard.

Now all the tyres where softs actually.
You sure about that?

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Brenton wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:32
zeph wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:28
Brenton wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:13
But it raises the question of why there isn't the same parity there was in 2008-2012.
Engine freeze. From 2006 until 2013 the engines remained essentially the same. And they could use like 8 in a season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_O ... %80%932013
But why then is there such a big gap between Red Bull to the damn works-Renault team and the other Renault team? And the same with the Mercedes customers and Ferrari customers. If it's due to PU differences, why are the top three all in different PU's, the three PUs that are used by 9 of the 10 teams, all almost equal in performance?
First of all, you talk about parity in 2008-2012, but I don't think it was as level as you suggest. In '08, Ferrari and McLaren were way ahead of everybody else. Thanks to clever exploitation of a loophole in the regulations, Brawn managed to dominate the first half of '09. From '10 to '12, RedBull reigned supreme, although Ferrari and McLaren were able to compete at some level.

Domination is nothing new for F1, and if anything, this year it seems like the gap between the top three teams is closer than ever.

As for the gaps between RBR and the other Renault teams, it is down to budget and people. RBR simply have the best people working for them, and can afford to pay them. They have had the same people in place for a long time so stability also plays in their favor.

Renault returned to F1 in 2016 by buying a seriously decrepit Lotus team. Their budget is lower, and they are still in the process of building the team and organization. Year over year improvements are noticeable, so expect them to be competitive at some point in the future.

McLaren is coming out of chaos. Ron Dennis was forcibly removed early 2017, and this is the first season with the Renault PU, which has finally exposed any shortcomings previously obfuscated by the Honda PU. Only this season has made them realize that they need to restructure and turning that ship around will take time. I'd be impressed if they are competitive as early as next year.

On the Mercedes and Ferrari PU side, there are similar differences in budget and talent between the top teams and midfielders.

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MtthsMlw wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:44
maxxer wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:43
Nonserviam85 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 22:38
It is getting more boring by the week...
Any ideas on how to make it interesting in the short term?

My suggestions, either increase the DRS zones to 3sec or mandate the use of all 3 tyres during the race.
bring a soft / medium / hard.

Now all the tyres where softs actually.
You sure about that?
Yeah, I beg to differ. Managing the SS a little bit would make it good enough to do the entire race. Who wants anything harder?

Pirelli needs to go more aggressive. And so what if then sometimes we end up with 4 stop races. I wouldn't mind.
Then again, it's not a true solution, but only one still possible to change anything during the course of the current season.

But anyway, at least we've got Le Mans 24h week to flush all of this :mrgreen:

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So Max didn't manage a whole weekend without crashing into someone, he has just been interviewed on Sky and mentioned that he "kissed" B077AS at the start :twisted: .......Discuss!!!
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There’s an inherent contradiction: people want cars that are close in performance but they want them to overtake each other. It’s not going to happen.

If the performance spread is so small, you’re just not going to be able to overtake very easily - certainly without mistakes being made (and these are supposed to be the best drivers in the world).

This is why having different strategy options is a good idea (and why on track overtaking is not the be all, end all).

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nevill3 wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 23:02
So Max didn't manage a whole weekend without crashing into someone, he has just been interviewed on Sky and mentioned that he "kissed" B077AS at the start :twisted: .......Discuss!!!
Yeah saw the contact when it happened. Good on Bottas for keeping his elbows out

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Classic kiss and tell
Always find the gap then use it.

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z.topoln wrote:
10 Jun 2018, 21:57
Leclerc is awesome

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Leclerc is very good indeed, a contender I agree. But, I feel Wehrlein is also the real deal, he scored points in a Sauber when they were the worst team and had a year old Ferrari PU, not the brand spanking new units (on which Ferrari spent a extra 200 million before the 2017 season) which now is almost up there with the merc unit like they have now. I think If Wehrlein still had his Seat (like he deserved) he would have shone this season.