919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by Maritimer » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:15 pm

So much tribalism on these boards. No sheet a modified F1 car would be faster, or some maniac time attack car built to zero regulations like the Red Bull Gran Turismo cars. But, in case nobody has noticed, Porsche are the only ones out there actually doing it. Lets maybe stop with the what if's and could be's and just appreciate the car, ya?

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by J.A.W. » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:33 am

Not so much "tribalism" - since even 'in house' - Porsche has on hand..
several much more aesthetically & aurally appealling cars..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVH3-IO4Jxc
Dr Zachary Smith sez..
"Yes.. spare us your ridiculous remarks, you insensitive idiot!"

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by Manfer » Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:32 pm

HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!
The speed that thing carries through corners in unreal.

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by bdr529 » Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:57 pm

Manfer wrote:
Fri Jun 29, 2018 1:32 pm
HOLY MOTHER OF GOD!!
The speed that thing carries through corners in unreal.
:shock:....yeh that about sums it up

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by R_GoWin » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:59 pm

Perhaps this helps for some perspective: (nevertheless - its an impressive feat and I love those LMP1 cars!)

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/motorsp ... 15752.html

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The WEC efficiency regulations limited the energy from fuel per lap by using a fuel flow meter. The V4 combustion engine’s output back then was around 500 hp. Freed from these restrictions, equipped with an updated software but running the regular race fuel (E20, containing 20 per cent bio ethanol), the Evo version delivers 720 hp.

Because the amount of energy from the two recovery systems that could be used was limited as well in terms of electric megajoule per lap, the systems stayed far below their potential. With now full boost being available, the e-machine output increased by ten per cent from 400 to 440 hp.

The engineers also unchained the aerodynamics of the 919 Evo from the regulations. The new larger front diffuser now balances the new and very large rear wing, both of which have actively controlled drag reduction systems (DRS). The hydraulically operated systems trim the trailing edge of the front diffuser and opens up the slot between the rear wing main plane and the flap respectively in order to reduce drag. Underneath the Evo the turning vanes and floor have been optimised. Fixed height side skirts increase the aerodynamic performance again as efficiently as possible. In total the aero modifications resulted in 53 per cent higher downforce and an increase in efficiency by 66 per cent (compared to the 2017 Spa WEC qualifying).

To help further expand the performance envelope, the Evo gained a four-wheel brake-by-wire system to provide additional dynamic yaw control. Furthermore, the power steering was adapted for the higher loads and stronger suspension wishbones (front and rear) were designed.

Compared to the car in conventional race trim, the dry weight was reduced by 39 kilograms to 849 kilograms. To achieve this, air-conditioning, windscreen wiper, several sensors, electronic devices from race control, lights systems and the pneumatic jack system were removed. Michelin developed special tyre compounds for the 919 Evo that produces more downforce than a Formula One car.
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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by VARIANT | one » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:23 pm

Maritimer wrote:
Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:15 pm
So much tribalism on these boards. No sheet a modified F1 car would be faster, or some maniac time attack car built to zero regulations like the Red Bull Gran Turismo cars. But, in case nobody has noticed, Porsche are the only ones out there actually doing it. Lets maybe stop with the what if's and could be's and just appreciate the car, ya?
Exactly. I keep hearing that same exclamation. But, would an uncorked F1 car even be an F1 car? Is there some reason to think they'd stay open wheel? Isn't that what makes them F1? Wouldn't we all arrive at some Red Bull X1 kind of middle point if we were doing this stuff correctly? 8)

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by Cold Fussion » Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:03 am

It isn't an F1 car if it doesn't adhere to F1 regulations, in the same way the 919 EVO isn't an LMP1 car.

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by senja » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:15 pm

Cold Fussion wrote:
Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:03 am
It isn't an F1 car if it doesn't adhere to F1 regulations, in the same way the 919 EVO isn't an LMP1 car.
Exactly. I keep hearing how LMP1 car beats F1 car. It's not LMP1 car. This beats LMP1 car in Spa by 12 seconds or so, and barely beats last year F1 car.

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by Shooty81 » Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:52 am

The point is, this car beat everything that has ever made a lap around the Nordschleife. It did not stick to any existing classes rules. But nobody has ever been faster. Nothing more to say.

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Re: 919 at Nurburgring: The Adults Have Entered The Room

Post by digitalrurouni » Thu Aug 02, 2018 2:04 pm

The 919 video at the Ring was just comical it was that fast. Unreal. I doff the proverbial cap in Porsche's direction. Now make what Porsche did to the 919 Evo to the other LMP1 cars and come up with an LMP0 formula or LMPX and make it part of the championship :twisted: =D> [-o<