Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by AJI » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:44 pm

subcritical71 wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 1:47 pm
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And it entirely depends on how they did the calculations......I'd like to know the details of how it was calculated.
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Wouldn't we all...
The reality is; each manufacturer is the only one who knows its own power output, the rest is conjecture. The manufacturer(s) will never release the number, let alone the proceedure they use to arrive at that number. AMuS and the like speculate for us and we extrapolate from there with the limited data we have.
IMO, as the magic figure of '1000hp' is pure marketing guff I think we can safely assume that it's measured (or calculated) peak crank power, with a full 4MJ of battery power on tap, running in free load, in optimal conditions, for the minimum amount of time it takes to hit that number. I have little doubt that they can hit that number, but I've always assumed it's basically just an in-house number chasing dyno shootout..?
As far as the really important number, which is reliable, sustainable power.., it's anyone's guess...

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by PlatinumZealot » Mon Sep 17, 2018 1:09 am

I hope Wazari is busy working on the spec 3 honda engine.

Was great having him around.

He will be smiling next year when Honda wins again.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Bill » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:25 am

Wasabi is a ruse get over it

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Bill » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:26 am

Wasari

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by saviour stivala » Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:50 am

it is being reported that Honda next update is at next race and not USA.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by anthonyfa18 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:36 am

I have a feel the honda spec 3 pu will show it face at home race in Japan

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by PlatinumZealot » Tue Sep 18, 2018 4:00 am

saviour stivala wrote:
Mon Sep 17, 2018 9:50 am
it is being reported that Honda next update is at next race and not USA.
That is a wise choice to track test and tune before the big stage. Makes sense.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Karim28 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:28 am

anthonyfa18 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:36 am
I have a feel the honda spec 3 pu will show it face at home race in Japan
emmm , with being penalized and in Suzuka which has 0 opportunity to overtake ? . It's not a sensible idea
Russia will be the best place to introduce Spec 3 because it'll be a real test for the new engine

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by godlameroso » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:37 am

Karim28 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:28 am
anthonyfa18 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:36 am
I have a feel the honda spec 3 pu will show it face at home race in Japan
emmm , with being penalized and in Suzuka which has 0 opportunity to overtake ? . It's not a sensible idea
Russia will be the best place to introduce Spec 3 because it'll be a real test for the new engine
There's only 2 real straights.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by etusch » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:47 am

Karim28 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:28 am
anthonyfa18 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:36 am
I have a feel the honda spec 3 pu will show it face at home race in Japan
emmm , with being penalized and in Suzuka which has 0 opportunity to overtake ? . It's not a sensible idea
Russia will be the best place to introduce Spec 3 because it'll be a real test for the new engine
İt could make sence for Qualifications at least

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by restless » Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:37 pm

In past years Suzuka was one of worst tracks for Honda engine.
High speed cornering, height deviation...
And its the home track for Honda.
Lots of sense to have spec3 up and running there.
I guess they had plan to introduce spec 3 ASAR (Spa ideally), but no later than Austin - if ots ready for Sochi - great.
So far spec 2 seems to be as good as expected AND reliable.

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Karim28 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:25 pm

godlameroso wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:37 am
Karim28 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:28 am
anthonyfa18 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:36 am
I have a feel the honda spec 3 pu will show it face at home race in Japan
emmm , with being penalized and in Suzuka which has 0 opportunity to overtake ? . It's not a sensible idea
Russia will be the best place to introduce Spec 3 because it'll be a real test for the new engine
There's only 2 real straights.
I really don't know which track you mean
But Sochi is Stop-Go track with 2 Main straights , that's enough to test the traction and the top speed
As the engine suffers from acceleration at the moment (considering the speed the car crosses the sectors with)

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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Big Tea » Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:31 pm

restless wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:37 pm
In past years Suzuka was one of worst tracks for Honda engine.
High speed cornering, height deviation...
And its the home track for Honda.
Lots of sense to have spec3 up and running there.
I guess they had plan to introduce spec 3 ASAR (Spa ideally), but no later than Austin - if ots ready for Sochi - great.
So far spec 2 seems to be as good as expected AND reliable.
But in previous years it has been in a Mclaren which most people seem to consider draggy.
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Re: Honda Power Unit Hardware & Software

Post by Mudflap » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:02 pm

godlameroso wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:37 am
Karim28 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:28 am
anthonyfa18 wrote:
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:36 am
I have a feel the honda spec 3 pu will show it face at home race in Japan
emmm , with being penalized and in Suzuka which has 0 opportunity to overtake ? . It's not a sensible idea
Russia will be the best place to introduce Spec 3 because it'll be a real test for the new engine
There's only 2 real straights.
3rd most power sensitive circuit after Spa and Monza.
How much TQ does it make though?