All he had to do was copy what Hamilton was doing. It was being shared, and that's what precipitated the rift, you simply can't say the above without acknowledging the core issue.Phil wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:22 pmWhile I agree that Rosberg was at times quite a bit slower than Hamilton when the latter qualified ahead of him, it is also indisputable that Rosberg outqualified Hamilton on more than a few occasions (more than any other team-mate, if I am not mistaken). So while on average, Hamilton was perhaps further ahead when he did outqualify Rosberg and only narrowly behind when he didn't, it doesn't change the fact that Rosberg did on numerous occasions, outqualify Hamilton.
Which shows how good Hamilton was to take 3-1 in the titles stakes.
Simply copying would only suggest being as quick. Going faster would suggest being faster. Which, when it happened, didnt prevent Hamilton from using Rosbergs telematry either, no?
Depending on who you believe, etc etc, the story goes as follows. Nico would hold back in practice and analyze Lewis's telemetry for where he would could make gains. Nico would then only show his full hand in qualifying, when it was to late to make set-up changes. This then lead to both drivers holding back in practice trying to obscure their true pace, and that started to hurt the team.
I'm not arguing that Rosberg wasn't quick. I'm saying that when you factor in the telemetry, Lewis' overwhelming number of mechanical issues where he went into qualifying knowing he'd start from the back and then the needless disruptions that came from the conflict you wind up giving your story a different light than simply Rosberg being quick and being able to beat Hamilton on a great many number of occasions. That just wasn't the case when you factor it all in.Phil wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:40 pmSimply copying would only suggest being as quick. Going faster would suggest being faster. Which, when it happened, didnt prevent Hamilton from using Rosbergs telematry either, no?
Look, i am a Hamilton fan and IMO as big as one can be, but respect where it is due. Rosberg was fast and hard to beat when he was on it, and he was on it quite often. I never seen Hamilton make that many mistakes in QF like against Rosberg and much of that was due to being under pressure. That deserves credit.
This situation was no different than what transpired later in 2014 between Vettel and Ricciardo. I look at the psychology of the drivers in these situations.Phil wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:22 pmIt just puts what Rosberg achieved against Schumacher from 2010 to 2012 into better context. Yes, Schumacher was aging (although I don't buy that reasoning, I think tires and car characteristics played a more significant role vs what Schumacher was used to), but perhaps Rosberg was just faster than some here would care to recognize.
Loved that. Typical couple, typical response to being in the passenger seat when the other person is driving quickly. Susie looked pretty uncomfortable, more so than Toto, but then Toto was playing around a bit more.
Just imagine them saying all of that in the bedroom .Just_a_fan wrote: ↑Fri Oct 12, 2018 8:41 amLoved that. Typical couple, typical response to being in the passenger seat when the other person is driving quickly. Susie looked pretty uncomfortable, more so than Toto, but then Toto was playing around a bit more.