JordanMugen wrote: ↑
Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:30 am
Restomaniac wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:10 pm
Someone once said that the Honda PU was a piece of Jewellery.
2015 Honda RA615H:
https://cdn-image.as-web.jp/2016/08/070 ... 80x853.jpg
The size zero version WAS beautifully made, don't you agree? Just compare to the bulky unit from Renault for instance.
Obviously, as it turned out the compact packaging, axial compressor, size zero MGUH and size zero turbine ultimately hindered performance & especially cooling and was a poor decision, a decision taken at McLaren's insistence...
Phil wrote: ↑
Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:51 pm
Personally, i think McLaren will be hitting themselves at seeing RedBull reap the rewards they helped to build up.
McLaren obviously hindered Honda a lot with the size zero requirement which ultimately wasted the 2015 and 2016 seasons (due to the token system), plus an annual $100m is far better spent on the power unit than thanklessly donated to the McLaren chassis, so it is for the best they are apart.
Being with Red Bull who have arguably the finest chassis in F1, gives Honda the best chance to take podium results -- even if their PU is still quite inferior to Mercedes and Ferrari.
The Merc was, and still is, more size zero than all the Honda PU: overally shorter/smaller/less wide/with a smaller foot print and 'lower' , atleast as "beautifully made" and clean as the Honda... and obviously way stronger.
The real "size zero" was and still is the Merc.
Not very impressed with Honda's progress this year. Thir progress appears logical and normal to me; nothing groundbraking. And to say they're better than Renault now is a joke... Maybe their PU has produced more peak power than the Renault in two or three qualy sessions, but what about reliability, fuel consumption, race power etc? how many Honda engines did and are capable of doing 7 gps? how many gps did their spec 3 run without breaking? Will Honda keep that peak power or increase it and sort out the reliabilty and the efficiency at the same time?
I'm not writing off honda, they can succeed, catch Renault (without having to bring a new pu every 3 gp) and really catch the others, but in 2018 did none of that, contrary to what many medias say.