NathanOlder wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 10:20
basti313 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 09:55
Seems like you do not know this track or do not know how racing works at all.
The corner is a masterpiece of a corner. It has a changing radius and is hanging to the outside, before it changes to inside. The fastest way here is to break to the apex, apply slight throttle to trigger understeer to the outside apex where full throttle is applied. Throttle is really only slight, every bit of pushing it causes understeer.
A perfect example for this is the pole lap of Bottas this year. You can nicely see how he applies throttle to get the car into understeering, opens the steering to get the car out of understeering before the apex and then corrects the oversteer when he pushes the throttle fully.
Same in the fight Ham vs. Alb. The slight rattle noise from the exhaust once Ham is at the apex is simply slight throttle for understeer.
As said before...it is somewhere between impolite to disrespectful to say a Formula1 driver is not capable of driving this corner in different lines. For myself it is too difficult, I am anywhere in this corner...but not a F1 driver and certainly not Hamilton.
Understeer is just a consequence of picking up the throttle, you have to pick the throttle up before the car is straight as the coner is opening up but continues for a long distance. I wouldn't say they are applying throuttle to trigger understeer. They are simply applying throttle as early as possible for a faster exit, Understeer on the exit is not something that is desired. You are saying the drivers are wanting the car to understeer on the exit ??
Yes, absolutely. It is interesting to get out of turn 4 due to its shape. Of course the sliding with the control of understeer and oversteer is a normal thing for a F1 driver, but for me this corner is impossible.
As you say, you need to get on the throttle early. But in turn 4 you inevitably start sliding on the front wheels as they simply have no load. Usually understeer on the exit would be slow, but here it is different. The radius changes strongly, so you have turned the car nearly completely on the exit. All you need is to get as much throttle applied as possible without overdoing the understeer and ending like Bot in his second Q3 run or maybe better example like Gro in the race.
The core point is, that throttle is slightly applied at the apex, otherwise you do not get out of this turn well. The understeer we see is intended and controlled.
Wynters wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 11:43
basti313 wrote: ↑10 Jul 2020, 09:55
And it was "one for the team", without kicking Albon he would have won. Hamilton is a team player.
Hamilton was willing to risk his front suspension and a DNF in order to make sure Bottas got maximum points...
No, this is not what I am saying. Read again.
Hamilton intended to run Albon wide as usual. This was his intention. But in the end he took one for the team. Nothing wrong with that, although it was certainly not his intention, but a calculated risk in his hard racing.