I agree: This is a strong implication that their ICE is now pushing 750hp and PU >900.
This in turn implies 179 g/kwh for the ICE, suggesting a very impressive joint effort by PU and fuel teams.
I assume we are all clear that .....mrluke wrote:Here comes 3 pages of posts explaining why Cowell cannot possibly be right and is just lying.
The same as every time a team or manufacturer discusses how much power is available.
Saw them over a few races live, I agree.Cold Fussion wrote:I personally think the V8's sucked, the noise they made was just a painful shrieking noise.bergie88 wrote:
I do get the fact that people are complaining about the noise, the V10's/V8's were really screaming which was a great experience.
Part of the problem I think is the camera work as well. There are so many long zoom shots used in F1 broadcasting which really remove any perception of speed. The onboard cameras aren't much better since it looks a letter boxed 4:3 image so a lot of time you don't see much beyond the track surface.ringo wrote: Anyhow it's kind of sad the engine has 913hp and the cars are so boring to watch. We need to reduce the weight of the car, and bring back refueling, and better tyres. The V10 days were still the better days.
Yes Ferrari was 990hp in qually mode it was on the website.r101 wrote:There were stories back in the day (end of 2005) from Renault about their V10s making 1000hp. Presumably that was in qualy mode, but still impressive if true.
Blaze I know you understand that as engineers we cannot just believe rumors without any sort of good reasoning behind them, we have to use the tools and techniques that we know. This why our horsepower numbers were in the 850hp range. With new information from Andy Cowell it is clear that all we have to adjust in our engine calculators is the friction loss and combustion efficiency factors. It appears that our assumptions on these were based on older (outdated?) knowledge in combusiton, tribology and material engineering. Of course Andy Cowell has told us the real number, and we will believe him because he is the most credible source. It doesn't make other members who only follow any rumor they here any better than us, the brave ones who use our engineering skills to take a shot though. In the end it results in a great exchange of knowledge across the site. I have learnt so much new things about engine technology this year alone.Blaze1 wrote:The contributors who suggested 850+ hp power figures in the ' Formula One 1.6l V6 turbo engine formula' thread, were called crazy last year.Even when senior team members mention such figures (last years estimates), they are usually conservative. I recall Marmorini of Ferrari last year speaking of 650hp for the ICE and during the Engine Gurus PC, in which Cowell mentioned efficiencies pushing 40% plus and Rob White half laughing saying it was a bit more than that. The clues were there.
Anyway these PU are incredible, fantastically efficient.