F1 Quiz Chain

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Lotuses 72, 76 and 77 (part season)?

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Lotus - Ford 72

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ddavid.com wrote:Unsprung weight was of newly found importance and consequently all 4 brakes were mounted inboard. The front brakes were attached to hollow brakeshafts and the front suspension consisted of upper and lower wishbones, torsion bars, anti-roll bar and telescopic dampers mounted inboard. Rear suspension incorporated lower wishbone, top link, only one radius rod since the suspension was relieved of braking loads (because the brakes were mounted inboard), torsion bars, anti-roll bar and telescopic dampers mounted inboard. They were soon resituated to outboard position because of overheating.
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But the answer was in F1technical forum discussion :]

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Ups - timbo was faster :]

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timbo wrote:Lotuses 72, 76 and 77 (part season)?
Ooops, my apologies, but I was thinking of three completely different manufacturers, mea culpa.

One down anyway, timbo and Z. And most sorry again.
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xpensive wrote:
timbo wrote:Lotuses 72, 76 and 77 (part season)?
Ooops, my apologies, but I was thinking of three completely different manufacturers, mea culpa.

One down anyway, timbo and Z. And most sorry again.
Merc W196 was one. Working on the othery!

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Don't know about the merc, but if you say so.

There was two other manufacturers in the 70s, think about it!
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Well, there were one another Lotus -- a 63.
As for others
Token RJ02
http://www.f1technical.net/f1db/cars/330
and Matra MS84 and Fergusson P99, also seem to had all brakes inboard.

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It seems I did not do my homework nearly as properly as I should have on this one. I was thinking in more obvious terms like the March 711 and the Parnelli VPJ4.

the 4WD cars wasn't even on my horizon, sorry everybody.

Over to you timbo!
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OK, can anybody tell the story behind this car?
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It might be tough, I'm not sure.
If nobody posts an answer within a day, I would tell what I know about it and pass question to Gary, as he posted a new valid answer for the inboard front brakes question (zgred are you ok with it?).

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Definitely timbo. Is int it the Typ 650 or 'Sokol'?

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zgred wrote:Definitely timbo. Is int it the Typ 650 or 'Sokol'?

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Wow, that was faster than I expected))
Didn't notice that there was an article about it on 8w.
Great site BTW!

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Yes - I just found out that F1 history can be interesting, especially on that site :]
While I am leaving for a concert I would like to pass mine turn to any of You guys.
Fastest one win :]

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It could possibly be a prototype Porsche 360 Cisitalia, but I'm not sure.
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xpensive wrote:It could possibly be a prototype Porsche 360 Cisitalia, but I'm not sure.
X, zgred made correct answer -- it's Sokol 630 F2 car, made by ex-Auto Union people in DDR.
Apparently he won't post his question so you're free to go.

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Jacky Ickx last Formula one race win came where and when? And what was the most spectacular with it?
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xpensive wrote:Don't know about the merc, but if you say so.
Bit of disbelief in "but if you say so", perhaps?

Perhaps William Boddy, motoring historian and founding editor of Motor Sport may have sufficient credibility. I quote from his description of the Mercedes W196 on page 179 of his book, 'The History of Motor Racing" (Book Club Associates), "All the wheels were retarded by means of inboard drum brakes of enormous size, and thus having no effect of unsprung weight.

And then there's this cutaway.