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BreezyRacer wrote:I'm from the US so I guess this doesn't affect me .. ???

In any case I want to encourage all UK people to fight to keep the BBC funded in full. You guys don't know how lucky you are to have it! Full Commercial TV will never even try to match it. Not just about F1 but all of the BBC programming.

The BBC could be an income producer if they would market more in the states, etc. I watch BBC here a lot but it's lots of reruns and they certainly don't show F1 here.

I did get a chance to watch one BBC F1 race telecast via the net and it was far superior to what we get here.
Thank you BreezyRacer for your thoughts and admiration for our once splendid national broadcaster. We've been royally screwed with this one.

I am not a thief and will not watch illegal streams, neither am I satisfied with watching only half the races live, so frankly, I fear, this is the end of F1 for me.

It was fun while it lasted (more than half of my life), but F1 is dead to me as of NYE 2011.

Nice work MrE you lying bastard!
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Well my friends, my f1 season will be far more friendly on the teams next year. Only 10 races, including Great Britain (ha it was great once) Monaco and brazil to name a few. A maximum 250 points for drivers to get there hands on. Not a single back to back race, we know how over saturated they can be! MASSIVELY reduced costs to the teams and due to less travel, better for the environment. For me the driver who crosses the line with the most points in the free to air races (you know the ones inline with the Concorde agreement, the very foundation to which the sport in governed/run whatever you wana call it) is the world champion to me. All the others should be non championship races. Like a friendly!

P.s forty-two, I'm in the same situation and you hit the nail on the head £10 a year is bugger all compared to £500 for a sky package. Let's wait until Alfie moon wants a pay rise and eastenders goes pay per view......but we know already.....that'll never happen!

And on a more personal note, I've already paid my Tv licence upto the end of 2012....so affectively I've been robbed already! I could have thrown my TV away at the end of the year but didn't as I knew BBC had FULL F1 coverage.... #TurningThereBackOnTheTaxPayer

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Follow the link bellow to sign the petition to keep full F1 coverage on the BBC

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/keepf1onthebbc

If you look on the BBC F1 website, the head of F1 for BBC has made a statement about this. There are already about 2600 comments expressing disgust and its only been on the site 10 hours. Its a disgrace!!

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2900 now and counting!

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Atleast we know what MrE is spending the money on...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... -girl.html

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It strikes me that there are three parties who could make a difference here:

1. The BBC Complaints department
2. FOTA
3. The F1 Sponsors

I expect that #3 represents too many people in order for email to have a noticable effect, but if anyone can compile I mailing list, I for one would mail shot them all.

I have already lodged a complaint with BBC via https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms and will follow up with a phone call tomo.

I have also sent an email to info@teamsassociation.org and I urge you to do the same.

I suspect that we're fighting a losing battle here, but if you don't argue, you can't really moan about it after the event.

Jake humphrey said earlier on twitter that "it's only sport", and frankly he's right. but I have disrupted my sleep patterns for years to follow this sport, it's not an idle "oh let's watch this" for me, it's what I look forward to for months at a time, and the Beeb have stolen it from me!

Why show half the season? In the words of "intelligent design" theorists, what is the use of half a season? It's all or nothing for me.
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Well its now time for the Sponsors to help us viewing public out.

I know F1 is a global player, but the UK is one of the largers viewing markets. If the viewing figure go down the sponsors wont give out as much money. Then we will see the dwarf eat the mess he has created.

Just as a side statement, any one of the Big sponsor companys who pull out of f1 over this, i will go to the shops and buy your product tomorrow! Help me Voda-fonie you are our only hope!

PS: whoever said lets just have a BBC season with 250 point and 10 races has the right idea.
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It seems all inside seem to think F1 viewership will increase:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 349356.stm

So. Those that have SKY & SKY Sports will already have access to the BBC and hence already watch F1 if they want too, so they won't gain any users by simply putting it on SKY. Viewer numbers watching on SKY vs. BBC will always be less, this is pretty certain.

Those that don't have SKY will watch it on the BBC and have to catch the other races some different, way, I guess on the 'prime time highlights'.

So I guess those inside F1 seem to think the prime time highlights will increase viewership?

The big question is, will this speculated increase of viewership balance out the inevitable droop in viewership they will get from putting certain races on SKY?

Sounds like a big gamble to me.

Let's make sure this backfires heh?

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I have also logged a complaint with the BBC. I've never officially complained about anything in my life before lol. Its a joke and hopefully if we can get enough people to bother them, they may (maybe lol) have a think. I laid it on thick in regards to the fact we are forced to buy a tv license if we own a tv and are treated like criminals if we don't have one, therefor the license payers should get some sort of say. If millions (and by looking at the huge response it could well be millions) of people bug the BBC, they are going to need to sit up and do something about it. Its just getting enough people to do log something official.

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Richied76 wrote:Well my friends, my f1 season will be far more friendly on the teams next year. Only 10 races, including Great Britain (ha it was great once) Monaco and brazil to name a few. A maximum 250 points for drivers to get there hands on. Not a single back to back race, we know how over saturated they can be! MASSIVELY reduced costs to the teams and due to less travel, better for the environment. For me the driver who crosses the line with the most points in the free to air races (you know the ones inline with the Concorde agreement, the very foundation to which the sport in governed/run whatever you wana call it) is the world champion to me. All the others should be non championship races. Like a friendly!

P.s forty-two, I'm in the same situation and you hit the nail on the head £10 a year is bugger all compared to £500 for a sky package. Let's wait until Alfie moon wants a pay rise and eastenders goes pay per view......but we know already.....that'll never happen!

And on a more personal note, I've already paid my Tv licence upto the end of 2012....so affectively I've been robbed already! I could have thrown my TV away at the end of the year but didn't as I knew BBC had FULL F1 coverage.... #TurningThereBackOnTheTaxPayer
You make an excellent point Richied76.

I don't know how many license fee payers there are, but I bet that even a 50 pence increase per license would have been more than enough. the sooner MrE is removed the better.

For the Beeb to say that it's OK because we'll still get radio is very thirties, how quaint (please, look up the origins of the word quaint and you'll see what I mean).

I guess I could watch only the BBC "sanctioned" events, but frankly, this is the thin end of the wedge and a step closer to PPV only F1. If that's the way they want to play it, then they will do so without my involvement. To mirror the words of Prost, if they want the money that badly, they can have it, but I for one will not put a penny in Murdoch's pocket for any reason, not even my beloved F1.
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This might sound dramatic, but I'm seriously thinking about cancelling my tv licence
We don't watch a lot of tv at all, we mostly watch rented movies on our apple tv

145 quid a year to switch the tv on, flick though a bunch of channels then say "there is never anything worth watching" before switching off

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Sawtooth-spike wrote:Well its now time for the Sponsors to help us viewing public out.

I know F1 is a global player, but the UK is one of the largers viewing markets. If the viewing figure go down the sponsors wont give out as much money. Then we will see the dwarf eat the mess he has created.

Just as a side statement, any one of the Big sponsor companys who pull out of f1 over this, i will go to the shops and buy your product tomorrow! Help me Voda-fonie you are our only hope!

PS: whoever said lets just have a BBC season with 250 point and 10 races has the right idea.
Good point, perhaps I will cancel my current vodafone contract for the company's mobile phones tomorrow and move to "anyothernetwork" in response to this.

Seriously guys, get ready for next year's RB-Astra and MP4-Cortina, that'd be fun to watch.

But I am totally with you. Here it is, I put it on record, Any F1 Sponsor who pulls out as a result of this will have my loyalty (TBH I have done the reverse in the past).
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BreezyRacer wrote: You guys don't know how lucky you are to have it! Full Commercial TV will never even try to match it.
Trust me, some of us are well aware of how valuable the BBC is and how lucky we are to have it....
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Looking at solutions like this, since TBH I don't believe things are going to change.

This looks like possibly the cheapest way to do it:-
http://www.topuptv.com/skysports/

Depending on how the season pans out, if the BBC broadcast races consecutively for a month or two you could cancel this and start again when it switches back to SKY.

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Diesel wrote:Atleast we know what MrE is spending the money on...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/artic ... -girl.html
Does anyone really believe that those girls are his daughters? More likely the pool-boy's offspring... :lol:
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