McLaren and Honda have confirmed that they will form a multi-year Formula 1 technology partnership. From the start of the 2015 season, McLaren's Formula 1 cars will race using Honda engines and energy recovery systems, renewing an association that became one of the most successful and powerful in Formula 1 history during the 1980s and ’90s.
Someone on another forum that has been pretty much on point with all of these Honda rumors, and others not relating to F1.beelsebob wrote:Sauce.dren wrote:Heard a rumor Honda might power Saubers as customers.
I heard Toyota are going to power Mercedes next year.dren wrote:Someone on another forum that has been pretty much on point with all of these Honda rumors, and others not relating to F1.beelsebob wrote:Sauce.dren wrote:Heard a rumor Honda might power Saubers as customers.
Then why Mercedes can't give Mclaren 'WORKS' Engines? If Renault can give their engines to RedBull despite having their own team, then why Mercedes can't? To McLaren?beelsebob wrote:Renault *has* returned as a works team – RedBull gets works engine supply.muhammadtalha-13 wrote:i would love to see Ranault return as Works Team. Wonder what would redbull do then
Renault HAD a works team. They dont anymore, its called Lotus now, ownwed by Genii Capital, not Renault. Hence, Red Bull is their de facto works team. Mercedes are a works team. McLaren are customers, since 2010.muhammadtalha-13 wrote:Then why Mercedes can't give Mclaren 'WORKS' Engines? If Renault can give their engines to RedBull despite having their own team, then why Mercedes can't? To McLaren?beelsebob wrote:Renault *has* returned as a works team – RedBull gets works engine supply.muhammadtalha-13 wrote:i would love to see Ranault return as Works Team. Wonder what would redbull do then
RedBull would start paying for their engines...That's exactly what i knew SPADEFLUSH. I was asking BEELSEBOB who said Renault "HAS" Returned as WORKS team.muhammadtalha-13 wrote:Renault HAD a works team. They dont anymore, its called Lotus now, ownwed by Genii Capital, not Renault. Hence, Red Bull is their de facto works team. Mercedes are a works team. McLaren are customers, since 2010.
I was just saying IF Renault again becomes a team like they were in 2009, what would Redbull do then.
...or become a title sponsor of the works Renault team, which has been based in the UK before....beelsebob wrote: RedBull would start paying for their engines...
Why would Renault or RedBull agree to jump through those hoops, when RedBull racing is already set up, and already the renault works team?Gridlock wrote:...or become a title sponsor of the works Renault team, which has been based in the UK before....beelsebob wrote: RedBull would start paying for their engines...
Chassis > Engine = Red Bull Racing Renault
Title Sponsor > Chassis = Red Bull Renault
Renault doubts F1 return for Honda, Toyota
One of F1's existing engine bosses has questioned rumours Honda and Toyota could be set to re-join the sport in the foreseeable future.
Amid strong rumours Honda will become McLaren's works partner in 2015, and possibly supply customer V6s to Sauber, another rumour doing the rounds in Bahrain was that Honda's traditional rival Toyota might also come back.
Both Japanese marques withdrew their works teams amid the global financial crisis late last decade, but could now be interested in F1's futuristic ERS-powered turbo V6 rules that will come into force next season.
"Yes, even Toyota is toying with a comeback," Swiss newspaper Blick's veteran correspondent Roger Benoit said in Bahrain.
"The Japanese have Williams in sight, and they could get Japanese favourite Kamui Kobayashi back in a race cockpit."
Senior Renault engine figure Rob White, however, doubts not only the Toyota rumours, but also the reports that Honda's plans are already well advanced.
"If they actually wanted to come back," he is quoted by Speed Week, "then why not take part in the planning meetings?
"We have never received a request in this regard -- the meetings are always only represented by Ferrari, Mercedes and us.
"But Honda and Toyota could easily ask the FIA for permission and join in."
Asked whether Ferrari, Mercedes and Renault were always alone in the turbo V6 planning meetings, White answered: "No.
"The first project meetings were held four years ago, and the interest was great -- Audi, Cosworth, Ilmor, Honda, Toyota, Mecachrome and others.
"However, as it got more specific, only (Craig Pollock's) Pure was left, but now it's only us three.
"I simply cannot imagine that a company will enter in 2015 without having wanted a say in the rules," added White.
yh just saw it on Crash.net (probably not the 'sauce' of preference for you guys but w.e)dren wrote:I'm expecting a news release for the Honda/Mclaren partnership in the next few days.
http://news.yahoo.com/motor-racing-hond ... 16582.htmloT v1 wrote:yh just saw it on Crash.net (probably not the 'sauce' of preference for you guys but w.e)dren wrote:I'm expecting a news release for the Honda/Mclaren partnership in the next few days.
Shame we have to wait untill 2015, would have been cool to see them in from the beginning, i guess they've still got a lot of dyno work and R&D to do first
