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The question didnt appear right.... :oops:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
More could have been done.
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Well, my fault I guess.
When you look at Alesi's decisions as to what team to choose for 1991, you can see that Williams was on slightly back foot in 1990 (4th in WCC), compared to 1989 (2nd), while Ferrari was close to winning both championships and seemingly ironed out their semi-automatic gearbox.
So Ferrari was seemingly rising again and Williams quite an unknown quantity.
When people say that he was wrong choosing Ferrari over Williams they are right, but it is purely hindsight knowledge. His choice was very rational when you look at it from 1990 perspective.

I think xpensive has upper hand being first.

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Fair do's
Personaly I think Alesi used to "overdrive" cars, very old school in style.
I remember him being ON OFF ON OFF ON OFF ON the throttle at Suzuka in some or other year later in his career.
Brilliant to watch his undoubted skill, but not really the fastest way round a corner....
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And thank you very much, timbo, here we go;

In 1974, Lotus launched a strange contraption called the Lotus 74/JPS9, with a whole fleet of Chapmanism's, a stick-mamouvered electric clutch, four pedals and a double rear wing just to name a few.

But there was also another funny aerodynamic tweak, which would go totally against today's thinking, what was that?
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That would have been the Lotus 72E with the high air box. The earlier version was pretty normal for nowadays. Perhaps you also refer to the end plates of the front wing stubs.

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WhiteBlue wrote:Lotus 72E with the high air box
Naah WB, the 1974 Lotus JPS9 was an entirely new chassis, but the designation is somewhat doubtful however, wether it was a Lotus 74 or 76. JPS9 was however the offcial designation, didn't race for long though.
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Double post, both corrcting the same designation error though, sorry guys.
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xpensive wrote:
xpensive wrote:
WhiteBlue wrote:Lotus 72E with the high air box
Naah WB, the 1974 Lotus JPS9 was an entirely new chassis, but the designation is somewhat doubtful however, wether it was a Lotus 74 or 76. JPS9 was however the offcial designation, didn't race for long though.
OK, Wiki calls it a Lotus 76, so let's stick with that, but I will always name it a JPS9.
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Ok, the 76 JPS Mk1 had a funny double rear wing, strange side pots and a hugely wide nose.

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The air inlets to the radiators were really strange. They had a wedge in front, were far back at the engine and the radiators were angled to the outside. Nowadays you would push the radiators forward, leave the wedges away and build proper side pods as impact protection.
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Indeed WB, but there was some funny thinking behind (!) that nose.
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xpensive wrote:Indeed WB, but there was some funny thinking behind (!) that nose.
Something to do with the inboard brakes? I do not really see the big difference to the 72E nose. The other strange thing is the tube chassis with the wishbone joints on the outside the body panels.


Anyway, the radiators are also very excentric for todays designs.
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Angled, even to zero degree, radiators was nothing strange in the 70, just look at the March 761. No, this had something to do with he nose, look at the shape of the thing, what's the logic there?
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The other strange thing is the tube chassis with the wishbone joints on the outside the body panels.
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No google thing this, takes an old geezer just to recall, but the nosejob was part of an aerodynamical thinking which must make Adrian Newey laugh these days.
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Ok, I agree this was a really tough one, but the aerodynamical thinking of Colin Chapman and Ralph Bellemy at the time was that there was an "air-cushion" build up under the car, why the JPS9/Lotus 76 had a "shredder" under the nose to crack said cushion and exit the high-pressure air behind that funny shaped nose.

If you look carefully, you can see there's no smooth transition between the nose and the chassis as a consequence.

I still remember a testing-tale when Ronnie could report that the shredder worked, as he could see pieces of glass-fibre plastics coming out from that nose-exit during heavy breaking. *L*

This one goes to WB for pesistance if nothing else.
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