Lewis Hamilton driving standards

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Tumbarello wrote:We want clean overtaking moves, not torpedoing into other cars. Kobayashi and even Webber showed how it should be done around Monte Carlo.
LOL.
The truth will come out...

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Onch wrote:
HampusA wrote:...
Alonso is the same, they are not aggressive, it's just hunting.
Alonso probably has his hand out of the car more then on the steering wheel just like Hamilton.
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True.
But then how many times has Alonso knocked someone off the track?
alonso T boned somebody at loew's , 2008 maybe ? didn't get a penalty though
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andrew wrote:Vettel has had his bad races. He seems to take it on the chin and accepts the blame. I don't recall him ever trying to transfer the blame when he was at fault.
Hmmm, like at Turkey where he blamed Webber even though he, Vettel, had moved across on his team mate to cause the accident?

The real difference between them is that one is passionate and the other calculating. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I see the Senna/Prost comparisons. Not saying either of the current 2 are as good as those 2 legends yet but give them time...

I think it's good to have the mix of the two - people complain when drivers are robotic in their responses to questions and also when they get lairy and wild. Now, with these two, everyone can be annoyed! :lol:
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andrew wrote:Vettel has had his bad races. He seems to take it on the chin and accepts the blame. I don't recall him ever trying to transfer the blame when he was at fault.
I beg to differ. Vettel fans will disagree, but the 2010 Turkey crash was 100% his fault. Yet he shook his fist at Webber and was so mad RBR held the press at bay until he had blown off steam.

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Tumbarello wrote:
ringo wrote:Hamilton is THE BOSS.
he opened up a can of woop ass on shumacher into turn 1. Overtake of the year.

Don't hate the player hate the game. 8)
It was another reckless move. He was lucky to get away with it because Schumi took a wide entry and didn't bother to cover the inside line like a normal defender in that corner.

Two drive through penalties and being directly responsible for ruining a good chance for his teammate to win the race, says it all.
Pardon? How did he affect button's race? Neither safety car period was caused by him.
We want clean overtaking moves, not torpedoing into other cars. Kobayashi and even Webber showed how it should be done around Monte Carlo.
So a move where if Schumacher failed to see Hamilton it would have gone very wrong is a bad move, and a move where if Kobayashi failed to see Webber it would have gone very wrong is a good one? If Kobayashi had taken the corner he would have taken them both out – there wasn't even the chance of having enough room for both to make the corner there.

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zeph wrote:
andrew wrote:Vettel has had his bad races. He seems to take it on the chin and accepts the blame. I don't recall him ever trying to transfer the blame when he was at fault.
I beg to differ. Vettel fans will disagree, but the 2010 Turkey crash was 100% his fault. Yet he shook his fist at Webber and was so mad RBR held the press at bay until he had blown off steam.
It is understandable that imediately after an event someone is angry. If you recall back to when Vettel had calmed down and was interviewed he took his part of the blame. If anything he took too much of the blame.

Red Bull PR on the other hand was questionable.

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@andrew - he has never accepted blame for that crash, at best acknowledging it as a racing incident. He also did not face any sanction from the stewards.

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I recall him apologising for it, even though he didn't have to.

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andrew wrote:I recall him apologising for it, even though he didn't have to.
I recall him hiding away from reporters not answering questions while his team swore blind it was webber's fault.

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So he wasn't interviewed outside a Red Bull motorhome in the paddock a few laps after the incident? Right, I must have been dreaming. :roll:

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andrew wrote:So he wasn't interviewed outside a Red Bull motorhome in the paddock a few laps after the incident? Right, I must have been dreaming. :roll:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PDsKF9IRI8[/youtube]

To me, "I'm not the kind of guy that pushes all the blame to one guy" sounds very much to me like "I think mark, but I've been told not to say it". It's certainly not admitting fault.

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My point exactly.

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andrew wrote: It is understandable that imediately after an event someone is angry. If you recall back to when Vettel had calmed down and was interviewed he took his part of the blame. If anything he took too much of the blame.

Red Bull PR on the other hand was questionable.
Well, Hamilton was angry too, immediately after the event. Later he went to the stewards with a pre-emptive apology.

And Vettel did not take too much blame. See the interview posted above.It was for the world to see that he made a steering error and drove into Webber. The videos are unequivocal.

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This is unbelievable. How can one support Hamilton all the bad stuff that he did during the Monaco weekend? Then the topic side-track to Turkey 2010... Come on, get back on track.

As for the ones who still reckon RedBull has a car miles faster than a Mclaren or Ferrari, that is just wrong. In the race, it was clear that Button and Alonso was faster most of the race in Monaco. In Spain, Mclaren had a 100% working KERS and was clearly faster overall. The only bit RedBull was faster was on the fast corners in sector 1 (the two right turns). I think that Mclaren is at least as fast as RedBull nowadays. The only difference is that some drivers are able to manage the situation better by making less mistakes, focusing on the best time to pit, etcs...