It drops to 150HP.gruntguru wrote:Makes no sense to me. Are you saying you measured the power at 169 hp? . . and switching off the 30 hp electric motor drops the output to 120 hp?
It drops to 150HP.gruntguru wrote:Makes no sense to me. Are you saying you measured the power at 169 hp? . . and switching off the 30 hp electric motor drops the output to 120 hp?
Yes 150HPTommy Cookers wrote:@pgf pro
it's easy for me to type in a few words, so .....
have you measured 150 hp ?
ie are you assuming the EM is giving 30 hp at all rpm or measured EM power as 30 hp at all rpm ?
is this the Honda EM ?
in 2000 that was fwiw rated at 13 hp@1500 rpm (the mean current through the EM will be limited to a desired value to do this)
if you supplied the same mean current at 6000 rpm (4x1500 rpm) that would give nominally 4x13 hp = 52 hp
so in this way that EM could add say 49 hp to the ICE at 6000 rpm (ie giving 169 hp total)
_From_ the MGU-h? Are you implying that the MGU-k is allowed to produce that amount of power? Or is this another way of saying that: of those 185; 160 is routed via the MGU-k and the rest goes to the ES?gruntguru wrote:So you calculate 615 from the crannkshaft and 185 from the MGUH? I would guess less from MGUH and more from the crankshaft.
In your previous post you said The ICE is around 40% brake thermal efficiency and the Self sustaining MGUH + ICE power is around 52%. That equates to 660hp ICE and 858 for MGUH + ICE.ringo wrote:No i found the ICE to be 800bhp . . . . .
I think he is asking about how you include the MGUK power in the calculation.gruntguru wrote:Sorry Ringo, I don't understand the question.
If the turbine was geared directly to the crankshaft to supply that excess power then I would agree. But I think the electrical link and the possibility that the power is not being used to supplement the crankshaft power muddies the water s a bit.gruntguru wrote:Thanks Wuzak and I agree with your answer.
General Note.
Everyone here seems to use "ICE" to refer to power from the crankshaft and I am happy to go along with that. In reality the term "Internal Combustion Engine" is any engine which uses air as both the oxygen source for combustion and the working fluid. ICE therefore refers to piston engines, Wankels, gas turbines, etc and compunded combinations of these. By that definition the ICE power would include crankshaft power AND any surplus power available from the turbine.
Is an electrical motor connected to the output pat of the ICE, especially one which is not dedicated to that generator?gruntguru wrote:For example consider a Linear Free Piston Generator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-pist ... _generator
The only output is electricity but it is still an ICE.