All who get through to Q3 should be made to go out on track

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I could swear that i saw inters on schumachers car during qualy when he was in the pits. I know it sounds wierd but i watched it several times and i defiantly see grooves or treads on his front tires. Did anyone else see this.

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I think it's pretty cool to limit the sets of tires teams can use over quali/race. It gives the race one more variable, and just like DRS, it's got potential to spice things up at key moments. I don't think we should alter that in favour of the small population of fans who only got Saturday tickets - you've got millions watching the races on TV!

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richja10 wrote:I could swear that i saw inters on schumachers car during qualy when he was in the pits. I know it sounds wierd but i watched it several times and i defiantly see grooves or treads on his front tires. Did anyone else see this.
I saw it. But all I saw was him doing a getaway burn-out from the pit slot. When the car stopped to be rolled back inside he definitely had inters on, very worn ones at that. I was too busy watching sector times on my pc and that is all I saw.
Who knows maybe he was out on track rubbering in an alternative line or two? He is a rather clever fellow! :idea: :lol:
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It interests me that some here believe the entertainment of the spectators is the prime function of F1. They advocate that a team should not be alowed to adopt a strategy that will get them their best race result, instead they must go out like performing fleas & entertain the spectators.

To me it is reversing the priorities; the participants interests are less important than the spectators interests. Have the spectators gone there to watch a competition or should they be at home watching TV wrestling?

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Schumy was defo on inters in the pits, but it was just a practice pit stop.

teams dont waste tyres if they dont have too.

clearly even one hard wheel spin launch is deemed to take life out of the rubber.

so its logical that if they want to conserve tyres and are prepared to do that sort of thing that they most certianly dont want to put 3 laps on a set just for the show.
especially if you only going to qualy 9th or 10th anyway

the RACE is the main event, all the rest is a side show

Did anyone else hear the snippet that rubens got in his non workling car, in effect, to ensure that other teams went out and set times, to force them to use up tyres ?

oh and when schumy did his last run he aborted that lap as there was no need to try an improve, should this be banned too


or should we force seb to carry on racing even with a broken car, after all a fair few fans just want to see him race ?

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I prefer a variety of strategies, so the current set up works for me. A team choosing to do a Q3 run or not is incredibly interesting, its actually a bold move to sacrifice grid positions for a minor tyre advantage.

The logical extension of this Q3 argument would say that it is not fair that some teams do 1 pitstop and others do 3 stops.

I agree the current format is a lot more exciting than a traditional open qualifying session.

It all comes down to whether you see F1 as a strategic team sport, or simply cars as loud as possible going as fast as possible with as much drama as possible. F1 has always gone for the strategic approach, while Indy went for drama.

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I can see that the race is more important, but there is some great sport and entertainment in a good qualifying, where the rules actually push the teams to want to be first.

Super sticky quali tires would mean there would be no reason for any team to save tires and not run.
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Giblet wrote:I can see that the race is more important, but there is some great sport and entertainment in a good qualifying, where the rules actually push the teams to want to be first.

Super sticky quali tires would mean there would be no reason for any team to save tires and not run.
I like the idea, however they should only be allowed in Q3 (which I think that is what you were implying). It would substantially increase the amount of $ to supply enough for the whole session. Two sets would be enough for the top ten to get a lap representative of the cars ultimate quali’ performance, plus that is all the time they deserve to put in two or three timed laps on the gooey tires. I suppose you could get away with one set for each team to use in any of the preceding three practices.
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you know before Q3 which cars are going to be 9 and 10 , so it doesn't matter to me if they run or not

you know which cars are going to be 7th and 8th ...same remark

the other teams all run , that's the ones I want to see

if you said change to drop 8 cars in Q1 , same in Q2 , otherwise same rules as now , top 6 run in Q3 but they get an extra set of tyres of their choice if they do two runs I would vote for that

I like the idea of a completely open tyre strategy for anyone outside the top 6

this would mean that the Q1 cut off would involve more than 1 car [which is really the position now ], competition becomes fiercer at the back ; same thing applies for positions from 7-12 , risk/reward ratio would change; at the moment you could have a wonderful lap to be 10th , only to find that you would have been better to be 11th ...surely that isn't correct !
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