Maldonado sponsorship for Williams

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Hangaku wrote:Checked it in Photoshop - it appears to be natural.

I can vouch its genuine.

I have a new paypal account now.....and it works! :lol:
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I'm puzzled as to why the ref and VAT numbers are blanked out.

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richard_leeds wrote:I'm puzzled as to why the ref and VAT numbers are blanked out.
+1

leaving the real sensitive data untouched.
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This is clearly a sponsorship invoice tied to a driver placement. Let's not forget the Italian economy is in a tough state, were it not for the obvious passion, there would be question marks in the italian media about fiat spending in racing. Agree this is an unethical piece of information to release however i believe the media will distort the story for benefit.

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scarbs wrote:I'd strongly recommend the image gets taken off that post.
Why in heavens for, this document is unique and precious, for the first time we can see in black and white what kind of sport F1 has become, 29.4 MGBP, that's more than 2 MUSD per race, is this for real, how did FW end up like this?
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A few other thoughts, that paper has been taken out of the envelope so it would infer it has been leaked after arrival in Venezuela. Also the redacted bit protects the Venezuelan company.

Also, it hasn't even been stamped "received", so if it is real that pins it down to the person who took it out of the envelope. Or perhaps the person who put it the envelopee then sneaked it back out for a quick pic.

Those folds are odd, why fold into quarters? Surely thirds for a DL size envelope or half for A5?

Mustn't forget the whole thing would be incredibly easy to fake. Its only a photo of a bit of paper.
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ergenomic wrote:This is clearly a sponsorship invoice tied to a driver placement. Let's not forget the Italian economy is in a tough state, were it not for the obvious passion, there would be question marks in the italian media about fiat spending in racing. Agree this is an unethical piece of information to release however i believe the media will distort the story for benefit.
The difference is that Fiat is not state-owned; PDVSA, on the other hand, is, and as such, it can be influenced by any prevailing public sentiment.

I hope this disclosure doesn't attract enough political pressure to force an early dissolution of the sponsorship. I think that would be the deathblow for Williams.

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Hangaku wrote:Checked it in Photoshop - it appears to be natural.
Yeah, naturally forged.

No seal or stamp of approval. Any guy with some time on his hands can make this invoice.

Dont even think this belongs in this thread. It seems very prejudicial for F1 fans to be hounding this kid. He's doing ok as a driver; no need to bash the guy or condemn him. There are less talented drivers on the grid.

If PAstor can repeat a monaco performance with a better car this year, i'm sure Williams are in for some good points with this car.
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ringo wrote:
Hangaku wrote:Checked it in Photoshop - it appears to be natural.
Yeah, naturally forged.

No seal or stamp of approval. Any guy with some time on his hands can make this invoice.
Seal or stamp, what are you talking about, it's a regular invoice the way you see them in the civilized world, probably photographed a by a vigilant secretary with her cell as the envelope was opened and I would have done the same?

As for the number of folds, at times I don't keep count myself when I send my bills.
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Number of folds? We are a critical bunch, let me tell you. :)

Whoever took this was probably a lot more concerned about doing so discreetly rather than preserving its aesthetics.

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All in all, we should all take our hats off to Tomba for letting this ride, we call it moral courage where I come from.

Other than that, I was shocked with the amount, some 50 MUSD, but perhaps I'm naive, what was your guess JET?
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xpensive wrote:All in all, we should all take our hats off to Tomba for letting this ride, we call it moral courage where I come from.

Other than that, I was shocked with the amount, some 50 MUSD, but perhaps I'm naive, what was your guess JET?
20 million was my estimate...Sterling.

Honestly, for a £30M to seat a numpty....every team below Mercedes(4th) should do it.
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What's morally courageous about displaying corporate account numbers?

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Still a tidy sum, as Lee van Cleef's character would have xpressed it, I wonder what the going rate is for a seat with the true peanuts, I mean the ambition-less also-rans, like HRT and Marussiaa?
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bhallg2k wrote:What's morally courageous about displaying corporate account numbers?
As an American, I would xpect you to know all about "in the public interest", or am I completely out of line here,
to me this is Watergate and christian fundamentalists watching hotel-porn rolled into one!

Where's moonchild anyway, he should love this?
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