2014 tyre development

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Neno
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Jersey Tom wrote:
Huntresa wrote:
Who?
There's no assurance that Pirelli will be back.
And who would wanna take over and take the beating from half of the F1 world like Pirelli has just taken?
I don't see it as so much that... more that it's probably prohibitively expensive. Companies more have to ask if it's worth the time and money spent. Bridgestone/Firestone was over it and left, even with what I thought was pretty good PR and exposure. Michelin wanted nothing to do with it unless it meant not having to go back to 13" build machines. Didn't hear anything from Goodyear/Dunlop of having any serious interest in a bid. I feel like none of them were interested in the cost of going all in on it.
Michelin said they will be back if FIA change their policy about just one tire supplier, as they want tire war. Bridgestone
didnt show any signs to get back, specialy when FIA changed their policy and instead racing wanted "show". Bridgestone didnt wanted anything with creating less durable tires. Pirelli get their place in F1 in first place because they offered lowest price for tires, as they supported FIA decision about one supplier in F1. 3 years are passed and nothing changed,
so i think Pirelli will stay in F1, but if in any case FIA change their decision about one supplier, Pirelli is probably gone. But i think it's too late for that. Teams already working under full steam on 2014. getting two new suppliers immediatly would probably make big difference in devoloping new cars.

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Neno wrote:Michelin said they will be back if FIA change their policy about just one tire supplier, as they want tire war.
That may have been the case in the mid 2000's but not anymore as I gather. Seemed they were open to it when BSFS pulled out, but it would have had to have been using their current factory equipment (again going back to the price theme, here of having to retool a factory for 13")
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Anybody dreaming of a tyre war in F1 has smoked the wrong weed. As it stands it is bad enough with one supplier messing about with the tyres to generate talk. If we had multiple suppliers the problems would multiply as well and the costs would go through the roof as teams would immediately go back to testing.
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WhiteBlue wrote:Anybody dreaming of a tyre war in F1 has smoked the wrong weed. As it stands it is bad enough with one supplier messing about with the tyres to generate talk. If we had multiple suppliers the problems would multiply as well and the costs would go through the roof as teams would immediately go back to testing.
Well the teams wouldnt be able to test, but the team who would pay Bridgestone or Michelin the most in a tyrewar would prob get its car from yesteryear atleast to be used during their testing.

But a tyrewar would only mean that the top budget teams would get tyres suited for their car from w/e manufacturer, like we had during early-mid 2000s, with the tyres from Bridgestone pretty much being tyres for a Ferrari and the rest would have to use them.

langwadt
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WhiteBlue wrote:Anybody dreaming of a tyre war in F1 has smoked the wrong weed. As it stands it is bad enough with one supplier messing about with the tyres to generate talk. If we had multiple suppliers the problems would multiply as well and the costs would go through the roof as teams would immediately go back to testing.
I'm sure I remember reading that pretty much all of the manufactures said they would only consider being a single supplier
They don't want tyre war, it is too expensive and they don't think they gain anything from it. if they win the car and driver gets the glory, if they loose the tyres get the blame

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Cam
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No need for a tyre war. If you have to, just have one 'accepted' compound supplied from a clean-skin supplier and re-badge them for any tyre company interested in having a presence - like a sponsor spot.

The focus must be on driver, team, engine, sponsors. Not tyre. Repeat, not tyre. Tyres are like oil, we know our car needs them, but the vasty majority don't care which is used and probably couldn't tell you if asked.

And for the love of all that is pure and holy - make them uber durable so the drivers can thrash them about. Find other ways to spice up the show if you're not happy.
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