CVC's 2008 loss widens after Paris agreement with FOTA

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Re: CVC's 2008 loss widens after Paris agreement with FOTA

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Here's another article, this one from the Financial Times, that includes a bit more info, and yet again some conflicting info...

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/170f1646-9d87 ... ck_check=1

I'm definitely not a financier, but piecing the three articles together, my best guess of the financials is this:

Gross income: $1,060m (per JS and BB)
Salary exp: $30m (JS)
Team pmts: $521m (all)
Principal pmt: $84m (FT)
Canada writeoff: $22m (all)
Other operating exp: $62m (assumed)

Operating income: $341m (FT)

Interest pmt (cash): $50m (FT - $624m less $574m PIK) perhaps this should go above?
Interest pmt (PIK): $574m (FT)
Depreciation, taxes, etc: $222m (assumed - seems high, but I guess not since taxes are probably paid individually for each race to their respective countries?)

Net loss: $505m (FT, BB; JS says $518m?)

Positive cash flow (excludes PIK and $104m not paid to teams): $160m, plus whatever the depreciation is, and perhaps some other stuff, too.

If all that's true, then perhaps F1 is in a bit of a pickle, primarily due to the interest charges, which indeed seem to be well over 20%. (I've been told that is not unusual for these kinds of loans :wtf: ).

pgj
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Re: CVC's 2008 loss widens after Paris agreement with FOTA

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Isn't it the case that CVC pays money to FOM and FOM deals with team payments. I thought that it was FOM/Bernie that gave Williams its advance in return for committing to the FIA F1 series in 2010. Which, in turn, resulted in Williams' expulsion from FOTA.

That would leave the question was it CVC or FOM that delayed payment?
Williams and proud of it.