Ferrari SF15-T Pre-Launch Speculation Thread

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According to
scarbs wrote:It depends on how you define best engine, ferrari certainly didn't have the worst engine. They were ten hp up on Renault but some 40hp down on merc on top end power (figures given to me from an F1 team). Ferrari suffered drivability issues and their ERS probably was the worst, costing them pace in the race as they had to cap it's use.

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Blackout wrote:According to
scarbs wrote:It depends on how you define best engine, ferrari certainly didn't have the worst engine. They were ten hp up on Renault but some 40hp down on merc on top end power (figures given to me from an F1 team). Ferrari suffered drivability issues and their ERS probably was the worst, costing them pace in the race as they had to cap it's use.
Renault or RB officially declared that they ran with 75cv less than Mercedes then the Ferrari lacked 65hp from Mercedes. 8)

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Yep, Renault, Mercedes and Ferrari we're sitting around the dynamometer exchanging numbers!

Come on guys, it's a guess.Nobody knows the exact numbers.

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TechF1 wrote:
Blackout wrote:According to
scarbs wrote:It depends on how you define best engine, ferrari certainly didn't have the worst engine. They were ten hp up on Renault but some 40hp down on merc on top end power (figures given to me from an F1 team). Ferrari suffered drivability issues and their ERS probably was the worst, costing them pace in the race as they had to cap it's use.
Renault or RB officially declared that they ran with 75cv less than Mercedes then the Ferrari lacked 65hp from Mercedes. 8)
What? Horner from Red Bull said that. But Taffin from Renault said 75hp is not reasonnable, 40hp would be more realistic.

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if Ferrari does not improve its chassis and the entire car you can add all the power you want and achieve nothing. The good news is that Ferrari knows that very well so there is hope.

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Blackout wrote:According to
scarbs wrote:It depends on how you define best engine, ferrari certainly didn't have the worst engine. They were ten hp up on Renault but some 40hp down on merc on top end power (figures given to me from an F1 team). Ferrari suffered drivability issues and their ERS probably was the worst, costing them pace in the race as they had to cap it's use.
Was it an issue of only driving the MGUK from the ES, a design that didn't operate at the allowed max capacity, or both? If they were down only 10hp or so max, I'd say it was the former.
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
taperoo2k wrote: If they want to get closer to Mercedes than they'll have to take a longer time on developing the power unit, hence Ferrari bringing up the FIA forgetting to add in a definitive date for power units to be set in stone. Rushing through developments on the chance they might win a few races early on is not going to help them in the long term. It's why I think Ferrari would do well to introduce their upgrades one at a time, making sure they work as expected. 2015 is a transitional year for Ferrari in a lot of ways. Ferrari always have a chance of winning races, but I'll be surprised if they do in 2015.
Allison is the one who mentioned the PU loophole, thus being responsible for the in season development allowed in 2015. The team has said they're not expecting to be super competitive at the start of the season but that around the summer break time they should start to come on strong and make a large jump in competitiveness. The delay in their expected competitiveness is obviously the lead time of the PU upgrades their making and should be introduced around the summer break time. Hopefully they make some improvements to the PU for sure, but they were only down 10 horsepower to the Mercedes PU in 2014. Hopefully they make a lot of progress to their ERS which was obviously a huge factor in the poor pace of the F14T.
Huh? Ferrari had the weakest engine crucial. Even a Ferrari official admitted it. I saw it in a gp update article and an autosport article.
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He is stating peak power, not peak sustained power. It seems their ERS system was poor compared to the others.
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Blackout wrote: What? Horner from Red Bull said that. But Taffin from Renault said 75hp is not reasonnable, 40hp would be more realistic.
Lotus said switch to merc gives them 85 bhp and 18kg less. Looks like everyone is just covering their asses, blaming each other. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

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Juzh wrote:
Blackout wrote: What? Horner from Red Bull said that. But Taffin from Renault said 75hp is not reasonnable, 40hp would be more realistic.
Lotus said switch to merc gives them 85 bhp and 18kg less. Looks like everyone is just covering their asses, blaming each other. Truth is probably somewhere in the middle.
Yes, with 2015 spec of mercPU.
Last years spec was weaker...if there is to believe reports of this years improvement.
So difference among manufactures might be a lot smaller.
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zioture wrote:https://twitter.com/Graftechweb/status/ ... 1039108096
Maybe new cockpit 2015 ?
no,

it;s the 2012 mode

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doesn't look like the one GUI is sitting in... :|
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FrukostScones wrote:doesn't look like the one GUI is sitting in... :|
I d say it a 2014 special spec... :mrgreen:
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Manoah2u wrote:
zioture wrote:https://twitter.com/Graftechweb/status/ ... 1039108096
Maybe new cockpit 2015 ?
no,
it;s the 2012 mode
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/wp-c ... rarin1.jpg
:?:
The F2012 small hole under the main air intake is obviously round, a lot smaller and placed lower. While the GUT one is higher and is kinda triangle-shaped.
Looks like a new monocoque.

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