Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

[NonNewtonic]

if ..they are on a highish level it´s not that high ..they are down a bit more than one second ....and not 5 .Idon´t really see the sense of doing a qualy attempt on not qualy level fuel .
And i don´t see the sense of getting rid of downforce generating appendages but still not featuring as the quickest through the speed traps...with the strong Mercedes engine....what´s going on there?

18 laps is a lot a fuel compared to a 3 lap run

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

They strung together 10+laps on that final stint. Each time doing a hot lap, then cooling down, then going for it again.
People are killing these guys for not understanding tyres, or focusing on qualifying. Now you can visibly see them doing tyre runs, doing race prep, and people are worried about where aero appendages have gone?

0.5 seconds was the difference in Germany. In the space of a week, it becomes 1 second? Very, very unlikely.
I wouldn't be surprised to see both mercs in the top 10, maybe even 1 in the top 6.

[xpensive]

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Temps will hinder them mind, so I'm not expecting pole....P4-5 is something they'll be looking at in quali and P5-6 in the race.

I have to give it to you JET, you should work in the Daimler PR-department or something?

[zyphro]

Hopefully they have forgotten to take out the fuel for the qualy attempts...
If this is their real speed ,good night Germany -they are falling back at an alarming speed ...and that´s the final nail in their coffin ...Schumacher not signing and zetsche deciding he is not spending the money any more.

There's no way they're 1.5sec off the pace.

Chill out.

[zyphro]

if ..they are on a highish level it´s not that high ..they are down a bit more than one second ....and not 5 .Idon´t really see the sense of doing a qualy attempt on not qualy level fuel .
And i don´t see the sense of getting rid of downforce generating appendages but still not featuring as the quickest through the speed traps...with the strong Mercedes engine....what´s going on there?

18 laps is a lot a fuel compared to a 3 lap run

Yeah, and they were going faster each time from what I was watching.

[marcush.]

I´m not expecting anything good.
The sector times have not shown anything good the whole weekend and after an initial step of .5 seconds per sector -potentially due to the track not entirely green anymore -they have not improved at all-stagnating .
If they had higher fuelloads -it should show in trap speeds .but you can see no change there at all.
And with Schumacher and Rosberg -so close in right every sector time it does not look at all like they are sandbagging at all.
monaco in reverse ...

[clipsy1H]

..... there is so many ppl who blame mercedes for this weekend especially today practice... They test all session .... 1 week ago they was 0.5 behind how's possible to be now at 1.1 sec ? mathematically impossible!!!

i'm sure they will be with both car in top 6 at the end of quali.... maybe Rosberg P3-4 and Michael 5-6 with little luck Rosberg can fight for first line.

BTW: who expect improvements over the last race means that he is crazy... in 4 days you can do nothing! All blame for tyres issue but when try to test all blame for bad times

[SeijaKessen]

The three kings and the messiah will have updates for Belgium...possibly.

[zyphro]

The three kings and the messiah will have updates for Belgium...possibly.

'Possibly'? If they don't, the season is a write off.

The fact Costa was there speaks volumes, he as well everyone by now, should know updates are required big time.

[NonNewtonic]

I´m not expecting anything good.
The sector times have not shown anything good the whole weekend and after an initial step of .5 seconds per sector -potentially due to the track not entirely green anymore -they have not improved at all-stagnating .
If they had higher fuelloads -it should show in trap speeds .but you can see no change there at all.
And with Schumacher and Rosberg -so close in right every sector time it does not look at all like they are sandbagging at all.
monaco in reverse ...

Speed trap do not reflect the fuel onboard the lap time will show.....

[xpensive]

Why in the world would you circle around 1,5 sec off the pace for 30 laps then, unless you have nothing better to do?

[NonNewtonic]

Why in the world would you circle around 1,5 sec off the pace for 30 laps then, unless you have nothing better to do?

Understand the tyres better so that they could work on something during the summer break? Maybe thats the reason why Aldo is in Hungary

[marcush.]

I´m not expecting anything good.
The sector times have not shown anything good the whole weekend and after an initial step of .5 seconds per sector -potentially due to the track not entirely green anymore -they have not improved at all-stagnating .
If they had higher fuelloads -it should show in trap speeds .but you can see no change there at all.
And with Schumacher and Rosberg -so close in right every sector time it does not look at all like they are sandbagging at all.
monaco in reverse ...

Speed trap do not reflect the fuel onboard the lap time will show.....

Mass is a significant contributor to acceleration which results in speed ...same gears ,same drag add mass drive slower...I thought it was such simple..
I confess TERMINAL speed is not going to be affected by adding mass but as I understand the spped traps rarely are positioned to show terminal speed,are they?

[NonNewtonic]

I´m not expecting anything good.
The sector times have not shown anything good the whole weekend and after an initial step of .5 seconds per sector -potentially due to the track not entirely green anymore -they have not improved at all-stagnating .
If they had higher fuelloads -it should show in trap speeds .but you can see no change there at all.
And with Schumacher and Rosberg -so close in right every sector time it does not look at all like they are sandbagging at all.
monaco in reverse ...

Speed trap do not reflect the fuel onboard the lap time will show.....

Mass is a significant contributor to acceleration which results in speed ...same gears ,same drag add mass drive slower...I thought it was such simple..
I confess TERMINAL speed is not going to be affected by adding mass but as I understand the spped traps rarely are positioned to show terminal speed,are they?

Actually they are because normally speed trap is positioned just a couple of metre before the driver brake if you ever seen the onboard video on the other thread the car will reach terminal velocity right before the corner given that it is perfectly tuned

[SeijaKessen]

Why in the world would you circle around 1,5 sec off the pace for 30 laps then, unless you have nothing better to do?

Understand the tyres better so that they could work on something during the summer break? Maybe thats the reason why Aldo is in Hungary

What have they been doing for the last 10 races then?

Hungary rolls around and suddenly they think to themselves, "Oh hey maybe we should get a handle on the tires. We were supposed to do that around China back in April, but we were busy with other things."

No updates since Monaco begs the eternal question of, what is it exactly they are doing in Brackley?

Taking the Italian Stallion's 612 out for a spin through the countryside?