In summary that is the best description.LionKing wrote:In other words, the problem is not slacking but just plain incompetence
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In summary that is the best description.LionKing wrote:In other words, the problem is not slacking but just plain incompetence
The car is crap.Pierce89 wrote:Shumi said they're "race focus" didn't really hurt quali and he wasn't seeming happy: "This morning we practiced for long runs as yesterday we could not do that due to the rain but I don't think it compromised our performance. You have to accept the gap is quite big."
Thats exactly what I wondered too, when I read that they had massive understeer.marcush. wrote:We have understeer which is uncurable...maybe someone realised they chopped off the cascades a fortnight ago and the car dropped like a stone ín performance since then?
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Every other team is trying different staff, iteration after iteration, except Mercedes. How are they going to learn anything if they do not try designs at practices? Obviously the drawing board, workstations and wind tunnel is not enough alone. RBR has arguably the best aerodynamist around and yet they still had to use the practice times and races to iron out their issues and converge to a working design.marcush. wrote:ithink there is something decidedly wrong in attitude of the team:
They wow to do everything to understand but they seem to not believe in their ability to turn the corner with updates and improvements.
So again and again they are astill slow with dishing out new bits and pieces or even upgrades and when they are mounted one wonders if the situation has imprved.
We have understeer which is uncurable...maybe someone realised they chopped off the cascades a fortnight ago and the car dropped like a stone ín performance since then?
RB have a development platform. Merc do not - they're hopelessly lostLionKing wrote:Every other team is trying different staff, iteration after iteration, except Mercedes. How are they going to learn anything if they do not try designs at practices? Obviously the drawing board, workstations and wind tunnel is not enough alone. RBR has arguably the best aerodynamist around and yet they still had to use the practice times and races to iron out their issues and converge to a working design.marcush. wrote:ithink there is something decidedly wrong in attitude of the team:
They wow to do everything to understand but they seem to not believe in their ability to turn the corner with updates and improvements.
So again and again they are astill slow with dishing out new bits and pieces or even upgrades and when they are mounted one wonders if the situation has imprved.
We have understeer which is uncurable...maybe someone realised they chopped off the cascades a fortnight ago and the car dropped like a stone ín performance since then?
Also never bought the bull from Ross that they are focusing on understanding tires. They should be able work on all major design aspects of the car in paralel and in coherence.
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You're rolling your eyes, because you're new and missed a conversation. To answer your question, yes. When the Willis and Costa announcements came out virtually everyone agreed (a rare occasion) that we shouldn't get our hopes up much for the W03 as it won't be until the W04 that we'll get to see the full influence of these hires. So again, yes.... and if you had asked that question on this forum circa 2011, virtually every familiar face on this thread would have said yes too.SeijaKessen wrote:JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:There is logistics to think of.
Bigois had many ideas. But he could never get them working.
The W03 is the most competitive car Mercedes have produced. It had the benefit of Bell to sift through it's workable ideas, and not so workable ones.
Bigois left his position what, 2 months ago? Mark Elliot, has yet to take up his postion as far as I'm aware.
If Bigois has gone, and Elliott yet to take the reigns, is it really a surprise Mercedes have stood still?
Elliott has got to hit bullseye. The W04 is already on the drawing board, so Elliot can probably just about make a few changes to suit. Maybe even a full shift, depends what he thinks of Bigois' work.
Anyone know when Elliott takes(or has taken) up the the role at brackley?
So should we expect the W04 to displace one of the current top teams for the 2013 season?
Aha, never heard that one before, but what about the W05 then, as Elliott Ness will have no influence on the W04?Cocles wrote: ...
That's the car we've really all been waiting for since the announcements. The W03 is a stopgap. Granted I personally wish it had more pace, but I'd be a lot more angry if it was the W04 having these problems.
nonsense.