Mercedes AMG F1 Team 2012

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Agree with that, just that i dont want him to carry on for another year or two with a team that does not deliver results. He's still fit as ever, and at his best since he's come back,no one can disagree with that.
Forza Michael. Forza Jules

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"Then we even had a drive-through because maybe the pitlane limiter or something didn't work properly during the puncture phase."

Omfg.

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Pierce89 wrote:I with X. You Merc fans were claiming the W03 would stop climate change and bring world peace.
What absolute crap. I have had to put up with you slagging this team off long enough now.

Show me one fan of any team who cannot be optimistic! Now you bring it up to rub our noses in it when this team struggles?
I would bet that every single one of Mercedes 500 odd personnel is more competent than you. Even the bloody toilet cleaners!
I'm going by your posts to make that call....

Yes Mercedes have suffered a dramatic and dissapointing loss in form. Any need to dance like a total a raving Jesse and rub the fans noses in it?

Give over man!
More could have been done.
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there's nothing to blame just a bad weekend for them..... car it's 0.5 behind but that's a lot improve last year they are 1-1,2 sec behind. I'm optimistic, Michael will gonna win this year 1 race or 2. (I go all-in at SPA, Monza or Suzuka)
Schumacher have nothing to prove he show us when have same material with others what can do. I hope he will stay for another year , w04 will be another step forward and probably 2013 decisive year for Merc and when Ross is under pressure make a champion car.

I felt when canceling the start that something happened to him

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clipsy1H wrote:there's nothing to blame just a bad weekend for them..... car it's 0.5 behind but that's a lot improve last year they are 1-1,2 sec behind. I'm optimistic, Michael will gonna win this year 1 race or 2. (I go all-in at SPA, Monza or Suzuka)
Schumacher have nothing to prove he show us when have same material with others what can do. I hope he will stay for another year , w04 will be another step forward and probably 2013 decisive year for Merc and when Ross is under pressure make a champion car.

I felt when canceling the start that something happened to him
I've lost faith in this team, until we see pace out on the track. Saying that you'll do something is one thing, doing it is another. So far it's been all talk and no action.

If we see no upgrades at Spa, well....

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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:I with X. You Merc fans were claiming the W03 would stop climate change and bring world peace.
What absolute crap. I have had to put up with you slagging this team off long enough now.

Show me one fan of any team who cannot be optimistic! Now you bring it up to rub our noses in it when this team struggles?
I would bet that every single one of Mercedes 500 odd personnel is more competent than you. Even the bloody toilet cleaners!
I'm going by your posts to make that call....

Yes Mercedes have suffered a dramatic and dissapointing loss in form. Any need to dance like a total a raving Jesse and rub the fans noses in it?

Give over man!
I'd put money on being more competent than you.

Besides, this team has utterly screwed 2 of the best drivers on the grid. A 7 time champ deserves better than this trash.
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: ...
I would bet that every single one of Mercedes 500 odd personnel is more competent than you. Even the bloody toilet cleaners!
I'm going by your posts to make that call....
...
As if that had anything to do with anything, xcept yourself being an xceptionally sour loser. Reverting to sobbing and personal attacks is not very dignifying, rolling with the punches should be part of the game for a die-hard fan like yourself.

As for this team, I've said it before, but I wonder if RB's role at Benetton and Ferrari was only to be MrM's ambassador?
"I spent most of my money on wine and women...I wasted the rest"

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Pierce89 wrote:
Besides, this team has utterly screwed 2 of the best drivers on the grid. A 7 time champ deserves better than this trash.
=D> .

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xpensive wrote:
As for this team, I've said it before, but I wonder if RB's role at Benetton and Ferrari was only to be MrM's ambassador?
That's far-fetched - his form at Benneton carried through to Ferrari. He's simply not the right man for TP. I don't doubt his skills, I just don't think he's the right man that can motivate his workforce.

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Congratulations x,

Life's to short to argue. And it seems I'm outnumbered.
I'll leave you in your festering pit of excrement, and hope that the mods see this does not spread to other threads.

For good now, I'm off to join 747 in F1 tech retirement. Enjoy the --- flinging chaps! =D>
More could have been done.
David Purley

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xpensive wrote:
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: ...
I would bet that every single one of Mercedes 500 odd personnel is more competent than you. Even the bloody toilet cleaners!
I'm going by your posts to make that call....
...
As if that had anything to do with anything, xcept yourself being an xceptionally sour loser. Reverting to sobbing and personal attacks is not very dignifying, rolling with the punches should be part of the game for a die-hard fan like yourself.

As for this team, I've said it before, but I wonder if RB's role at Benetton and Ferrari was only to be MrM's ambassador?
I'm actually convinced Ross Brawn didn't bring anything of significant value to Benetton and Ferrari.

Per that joke of a line on RB's Wikipedia, about the "Brawn-led Scuderia", what exactly did he lead?

Rory Byrne was the one who built all those winning cars at Ferrari and Benetton. What did Ross do? He wasn't the team principal, and most everyone attributes the success of Ferrari those years due to Todt and Byrne. Sure he was the technical director, but what's becoming more apparent with this stint at MGP is he doesn't have any clue how to direct anything, or even get a technically well-built car.

When Schumacher was getting pushed off the grid, I don't know if anyone else noticed, Brawn was sitting in the garage doing nothing. What the hell kind of team principal is he?

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zyphro wrote:
alvinkhorfire wrote:
zyphro wrote:Michael Post Race: We struggled with overheating the engine
marcush. did predict that the engine problem would occur, since the sand kicked by Maldonado during Q3 entered the engine.
zyphro wrote:MSC seen shouting at engineer with red head.
On which tv channel did you see this incident?
RTL I believe.

About time he got angry, they do not deserve a break.
Did anybody actually see him angry and shouting to the engineers?
I watched it on RTL but didn't notice it.
SeijaKessen wrote:When Schumacher was getting pushed off the grid, I don't know if anyone else noticed, Brawn was sitting in the garage doing nothing. What the hell kind of team principal is he?
I saw that too. I even thought he was even smiling but definitely he did not look very worried.

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Maybe he knows something, we don't. e.g. that he will get fired soon :)

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SeijaKessen wrote:
xpensive wrote:
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote: ...
I would bet that every single one of Mercedes 500 odd personnel is more competent than you. Even the bloody toilet cleaners!
I'm going by your posts to make that call....
...
As if that had anything to do with anything, xcept yourself being an xceptionally sour loser. Reverting to sobbing and personal attacks is not very dignifying, rolling with the punches should be part of the game for a die-hard fan like yourself.

As for this team, I've said it before, but I wonder if RB's role at Benetton and Ferrari was only to be MrM's ambassador?
I'm actually convinced Ross Brawn didn't bring anything of significant value to Benetton and Ferrari.

Per that joke of a line on RB's Wikipedia, about the "Brawn-led Scuderia", what exactly did he lead?

Rory Byrne was the one who built all those winning cars at Ferrari and Benetton. What did Ross do? He wasn't the team principal, and most everyone attributes the success of Ferrari those years due to Todt and Byrne. Sure he was the technical director, but what's becoming more apparent with this stint at MGP is he doesn't have any clue how to direct anything, or even get a technically well-built car.

When Schumacher was getting pushed off the grid, I don't know if anyone else noticed, Brawn was sitting in the garage doing nothing. What the hell kind of team principal is he?
It was up to the guys at the pit wall to coordinate the crew and tell Michael what to do. I think Brawn is slowly trying to extract himself from the running of the team.

Personally, I still think Brawn's presence is a source of stability for the team. Iets hope Bell, Willis, and Costa can at least turn things around so they will not embarrass themselves further by finishing the season lower than Force India or Sauber. Mercedes simply does not have the resources like Ferrari to turn things around in such short time.

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Btw. was he not also standing in the pits instead of sitting at the commando stand?