2023 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[AR3-GP]

Upgrade package coming in Monaco.

In hindsight, this makes sense because the cars had already been built up partially and with spares and reconfigured for upgrades then sent to Imola. It wouldn’t be efficient to strip the cars down including the new suspension and so on just to build up the old spec again, especially if they don’t even have spares of the old car anymore due to the planned obsolescence.

[Farnborough]

They'd have been running with this if Imola had gone ahead, that's the new stuff in Monaco I mean. Might as well continue with run plan + relevant spares etc.

It also provides a window into next year too, with this change in concept ultimately heading for 24 championship performance.

Understanding now how this iteration compares to 22 Monaco is very valuable in terms of understanding the current thinking on car philosophy and the shift they hope it will bring.

Vital importance to MB right now is development path for 24 tub etc, that coming now will help the commitment that's to be made in these coming months for that specification. Any look at this will help in catching competitors ultimately.

[taperoo2k]

They've released a how to do an upgrade video.

[F1Krof]

Can the misunderstanding of the car and the correlation issues lead to better performance than expected for Mercedes' case? I remember McLaren 2012 to be such a case.

[cplchanb]

Can the misunderstanding of the car and the correlation issues lead to better performance than expected for Mercedes' case? I remember McLaren 2012 to be such a case.

i would say more like their 2013 car where they installed their suspension upside down.

[chrisc90]

Has the car been correlated yet?

[cplchanb]

Has the car been correlated yet?

lets ask shovlin and allison that question

[wogx]

Do we have any info about new sidepods? Were they planned for Monaco? For Spain?

[organic]

Do we have any info about new sidepods?

what a can of worms..

I believe major sidepod changes had been scheduled for Imola since preseason testing or earlier internally.

There has been conflicting messaging from team members about how their car will be evolving.

[Venturiation]

Upgrade package coming in Monaco.

In hindsight, this makes sense because the cars had already been built up partially and with spares and reconfigured for upgrades then sent to Imola. It wouldn’t be efficient to strip the cars down including the new suspension and so on just to build up the old spec again, especially if they don’t even have spares of the old car anymore due to the planned obsolescence.

Why would you downgrade your car for monaco?

[AR3-GP]

Upgrade package coming in Monaco.

In hindsight, this makes sense because the cars had already been built up partially and with spares and reconfigured for upgrades then sent to Imola. It wouldn’t be efficient to strip the cars down including the new suspension and so on just to build up the old spec again, especially if they don’t even have spares of the old car anymore due to the planned obsolescence.

Why would you downgrade your car for monaco?

You wouldn't. That is what I wrote.

[Venturiation]

In hindsight, this makes sense because the cars had already been built up partially and with spares and reconfigured for upgrades then sent to Imola. It wouldn’t be efficient to strip the cars down including the new suspension and so on just to build up the old spec again, especially if they don’t even have spares of the old car anymore due to the planned obsolescence.

Why would you downgrade your car for monaco?

You wouldn't. That is what I wrote.

Yup I read quickly, it's strange Ferrari delayed theirs
When upgrades being more performance they should be used no matter the track

[PlatinumZealot]

Yes. Even if onky for free practice.

[Farnborough]

It just seems odd to me if they didn't use the (hopefully) more advanced specification as soon as they could reasonably supply the parts to run competently for the race weekend.

Many F1 information/discussion sites are giving every reason they can as to why it's difficult in bringing something to Monaco in this way.
The reality is that the season start specification has also never ever been to Monaco either, or for all of the teams in 2022, all of the entire field of cars.

If there's no confidence of their shift in directIon, at any circuit, questions should be made as to why they've designed it in the first place.

Equally, if it was a complete disaster, then that would also call into question many aspect of their technical team. To me, it's imperative to get stuck in and run it with upgrades, to the limit. There's really no other route to gaining on their competitors.

[Big Tea]

It just seems odd to me if they didn't use the (hopefully) more advanced specification as soon as they could reasonably supply the parts to run competently for the race weekend.

Many F1 information/discussion sites are giving every reason they can as to why it's difficult in bringing something to Monaco in this way.
The reality is that the season start specification has also never ever been to Monaco either, or for all of the teams in 2022, all of the entire field of cars.

If there's no confidence of their shift in directIon, at any circuit, questions should be made as to why they've designed it in the first place.

Equally, if it was a complete disaster, then that would also call into question many aspect of their technical team. To me, it's imperative to get stuck in and run it with upgrades, to the limit. There's really no other route to gaining on their competitors.

The only reason I can think to do that would be to test parts in isolation. Maybe not use a straight line drag mod while testing a new suspension tweak to have a direct comparison with 'as it was' and before and after in isolation.