Exhaust blown diffusers and FIA restrictions/ban

[beelsebob]

2013 will mark introduction of e-turbos.

What's the source for this?

2013 technical regulations.

I think it's quite a common knowledge, already. There was a quite nice article made by Pat Symonds in "Race Tech" few months ago dicussing changes 2013 seson will bring. It was focused mainly on the new drivetrain.

Remembering of course that FOTA agreed to veto 90% of the changes for 2013 a few days ago

[alelanza]

2013 will mark introduction of e-turbos.

What's the source for this?

2013 technical regulations.

I think it's quite a common knowledge, already. There was a quite nice article made by Pat Symonds in "Race Tech" few months ago dicussing changes 2013 seson will bring. It was focused mainly on the new drivetrain.

Thanks, can you please point me to those?

[ianwit]

Put ' 2013 technical regulations ' into google

[alelanza]

Well, doing that only gets you a bunch of hits of people speculating what those regulations will be, hardly an official confirmation. Or maybe i'm doing it wrong

[ianwit]

Charlie says the off throttle blown diffuser can be protested this weekend.


http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91554

[Ferraripilot]

Charlie stoking the fires trying to get the smaller teams to protest what they're up to??

[ecapox]

If in Barcelona, teams protest the blown diffusors, and win where we have half the field not being able to run the same setup as they ran in practice, i will not watch F1 in 2011. I refuse to take part in a witch hunt to the top teams by teams that shouldnt even be considered for GP2.

[BreezyRacer]

If in Barcelona, teams protest the blown diffusors, and win where we have half the field not being able to run the same setup as they ran in practice, i will not watch F1 in 2011. I refuse to take part in a witch hunt to the top teams by teams that shouldnt even be considered for GP2.

Yes, if teams get bumped for this on this weekend it would be a PR disaster for Whiting and company. The implications for the sport would be much like crashgate was, except it would involve the sanctioning body instead of a single team. Reading what Whiting said, it does indeed seem like a welcome to protest any of the top teams, but Red Bull in particular. He no like the drink company ..

[Fil]

Whiting's response would have been to a question posed by journalists interviewing him. It's not him inviting teams to protest. There was no press release by him.

As to the question of for whom this would be a disaster, I'm not sure anyone would win out of it.
The sanctioning body is just doing its job - ensuring the rules are adhered to. If it is found that 90% of teams are cheating, how is this a blight on Whiting & co?

Remember, until there is a request for clarification of a rule, the stewards do not investigate each and every part of a car.


All Whiting said was, should a clarification/protest be lodged with the race stewards (not him or the FIA), then there is always a possibility that (rightly or wrongly) the race stewards (which are independent and different at each race) 'could' find the engine mapping to be contrary to F1 rules.
Of course at that stage any team indicted would lodge an appeal, and it all ends up in court in a few races time..

That's when things truly get messy, as each subsequent race's results, until the appeal is heard, will be awaiting the final ruling.

[feynman]

Charlie stoking the fires trying to get the smaller teams to protest what they're up to??

I'd imagine Horner right now putting an elastic band on the smaller teams nads, let 'em know that if anyone protests the big boy diffusers, he'll have his guys bolt on some options for Q1 and send the tail end of the grid whistling straight past 107%. Keep that up all year long if necessary.

[Richard]

As Fil says, if asked "can a team protest" then the answer would be "yes". A team could protest about anything if they like.

Anyway, if a team did protest at such late notice, then they'd handle it like the DDD as being too complex to solve in the weekend so they'd sort it out later.

Meanwhile there is a lot of press exposure about a new weapon in F1, and that pushes the ratings up just as Ernie is looking for a buyer.

[Fil]

Ok pretty clear who's asked now.

"Q. 'Adam, it is said that it was Williams who suggested to the FIA to have a look at the blown diffuser situation. Is that correct or not?'

Adam Parr: '...I don't know if we are the only team – but we have checked the situation with the FIA to make sure before we spend a lot of money.'"

Source: autsport's Friday press conference transcript


Now the question remains, will they further their enquiries and appeal the results of the race?

[Richard]

Ted Kravitz on FP3 commentary has just talked about the possibility of a teams appealing. Whiting is reported as saying "I do hope that it doesn't come to that".

Also that the delay in the ban is due to the FIA needing more time to work out how to police the ban, and the teams needing more time to reconfigure the engines.

[beelsebob]

The FP3 commentary have just talked about the possibility of a teams appealing. Whiting is reported as saying "I do hope that it doesn't come to that"

Virgin are running the legal exhausts – pretest coming up.

[Pierce89]

Ok pretty clear who's asked now.

"Q. 'Adam, it is said that it was Williams who suggested to the FIA to have a look at the blown diffuser situation. Is that correct or not?'

Adam Parr: '...I don't know if we are the only team – but we have checked the situation with the FIA to make sure before we spend a lot of money.'"

Source: autsport's Friday press conference transcript


Now the question remains, will they further their enquiries and appeal the results of the race?

William's has a tendency to cry and stamp their feet and scream "I don't want to"