2025 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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ringo wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 03:58
SoulPancake13 wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 01:45
deadhead wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 01:37
Shame we won’t see LEC’s talent in full swing in a championship winning car that suits him. We got a short glimpse in 2022 and that might be it.


I can’t be the only one who thinks that he would gap the field nicely in the current McLaren?
I mean... yeah. Only guy on the grid right now I would be worried about Charles not beating in equal cars is Max. George has done a great job so far but the race pace in 2023, in fact even last year at times, was concerning when compared to pretty much the same Hamilton as we have now.
You have Hamilton in a new team that is still coming to grips with. He is not the same. We can sew the tentativeness on the onboards.
The season is long, but if you look on the current pace gap, Hamilton is closer to Charles than any other pairing on the grid.
Hamilton has not woken up yet. He's a slow learner. He will be flying soon once he trusts the car. The question should be when will he trust the car? That's when he would be closer to what he was in the past.
Surely you can't believe they are close as of now? Have you been watching the races? Charles has been multiple tenths faster in the race everywhere we've gone. There will be no "trust" in the car I fear, it is the same issue he had last year, the unpredictable nature of the car really limits him. He won't throw the car into the high speed until the rear is more stable.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 12:53
ringo wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 03:58
SoulPancake13 wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 01:45


I mean... yeah. Only guy on the grid right now I would be worried about Charles not beating in equal cars is Max. George has done a great job so far but the race pace in 2023, in fact even last year at times, was concerning when compared to pretty much the same Hamilton as we have now.
You have Hamilton in a new team that is still coming to grips with. He is not the same. We can sew the tentativeness on the onboards.
The season is long, but if you look on the current pace gap, Hamilton is closer to Charles than any other pairing on the grid.
Hamilton has not woken up yet. He's a slow learner. He will be flying soon once he trusts the car. The question should be when will he trust the car? That's when he would be closer to what he was in the past.
Surely you can't believe they are close as of now? Have you been watching the races? Charles has been multiple tenths faster in the race everywhere we've gone. There will be no "trust" in the car I fear, it is the same issue he had last year, the unpredictable nature of the car really limits him. He won't throw the car into the high speed until the rear is more stable.
Charles is the only hope for any sort of championship fight. For all the lewis fans, unfortunately he is there purely for his marketing ability. And that's fine to be fair. Lewis can really help support Charles in a championship battle. He can finish 2nd or 3rd.

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It took Max a couple of races to get on top of the RB19, Baku was his breakthrough when he learned how to drive it, so we shall see how Lewis gets on when he has had more time in the car.

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Car looks horrendous

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Pretty sizable understeer on the car this session.

Seems like S1 is still the big issue for Leclerc.
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catent wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 05:45
ringo wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 03:58
SoulPancake13 wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 01:45


I mean... yeah. Only guy on the grid right now I would be worried about Charles not beating in equal cars is Max. George has done a great job so far but the race pace in 2023, in fact even last year at times, was concerning when compared to pretty much the same Hamilton as we have now.
The season is long, but if you look on the current pace gap, Hamilton is closer to Charles than any other pairing on the grid.
This is not true.

Albon-Sainz
Norris-Piastri
Hadjar-Lawson
Alonso-Stroll
Ocon-Bearman

Five driver pairings that are arguably seeing closer pace by the respective drivers than Leclerc-Hamilton.

And that’s taking nothing from Hamilton. I like him a lot and hope/expect he will continue to get more comfortable and round into form.
How do you arrive at that? I am comparing stints, not the overall race finish average per lap.

The points gap is also nothing if we look at teammate comparisons this year. You would forget its just 5 points.

Lewis has a lot of work to do no doubt, but it's not as dramatic as some think. The expectations of fans and nonfans are just too unrealistic.

For Jedha he is also way off Charles now in FP1. But lets how things shake out on Saturday and Sunday.
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Lewis is just trundling around in these practice sessions. Hardly putting in any representative laps. I do not think this is a good thing. Looks like he's not the sharpest student to learn quickly. :lol:
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merc look faster and lando was doing roughly 1 sec a lap faster on high fuel run.. lets see how they improve.

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Long runs in the end were... ok. Norris's times were very clearly done w a combination of higher engine mode and lower fuel looking at telemetry. Charles's last laps of the stint were in line with Piastri's who had 4 or 5 laps fresher tyres.

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I though it seemed like a good session for Charles. Long run looked good. McL are in another dimension and I assume RBR are running turned down but car seemed OK. Obviously room for improvement but Charles and Bryan seemed to work well and got through the programme.

Things to note. Charles seemed to be in a great position on track for his long run. He had an imbalance on the front axel mid run (have to assume brake temp). Bryan informed, Charles didn't respond. Last three laps were in mode race. Seems like T1-2 and T17 are the main places to gain time on the 1 lap pace relative to others.

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Fakepivot wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 16:41
merc look faster and lando was doing roughly 1 sec a lap faster on high fuel run.. lets see how they improve.
Not sure that is correct (on Merc, McL is clear), Russell looked mighty on one lap M, but his other running seemed to be up and down. Might have been doing push-cool.

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Space-heat wrote:
18 Apr 2025, 16:43
I though it seemed like a good session for Charles. Long run looked good. McL are in another dimension and I assume RBR are running turned down but car seemed OK. Obviously room for improvement but Charles and Bryan seemed to work well and got through the programme.

Things to note. Charles seemed to be in a great position on track for his long run. He had an imbalance on the front axel mid run (have to assume brake temp). Bryan informed, Charles didn't respond. Last three laps were in mode race. Seems like T1-2 and T17 are the main places to gain time on the 1 lap pace relative to others.
Thanks for the concise summary!

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Could someone enlighten me on what "engine mode 1" is? And in addition, what is K1, the old K1, and K2 ...

As somebody said, apart from the PU mode and fuel level, it seems that some drivers did their fastest race sim laps of this session with DRS on, at least from HAM`s part, when he did a 34.1 on his last lap, compared to LEC`s 34.5, something that we could see on the radio transcript. So, on this track with the DRS on, are they gaining just four tenths?
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