2013 Indian GP - Buddh

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ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
I'm glad Grosjean stepped up when it was needed. Today was a display of what he's really capable of...very mature and controlled race. Lotus have a real number one driver they can count on...I expect Grosjean to get better and better...
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LionKing wrote:Hamilton's subpar performance again gets billed to the team, as usual no surprise there...
Not true. It's just silly that he gets written off.

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ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
Well he is still way behind Kimi as far as the whole season is concerned.

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I didn't follow free practices nor qualifying so I was suprised today by the Pirelli option tyre? What the hell happened? Did Pirelli messed up the tyre allocation for India? Two stopping drivers who had their option stint as the second one pitted again after 4 laps to put back primes. I know the option tyre is meant to last less than the prime but 4 laps? :O

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ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
at this rate of kimi is going on at the radio, I am not even sure if he will be able to last the entire season with Ferrari next year.

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Well Vettel wins his 4th WDC.
Newey wins his 10th Constructors Championship.

LOL... Who says that the car has nothing to do with it.


That said this year Vettel has driven consistently, faster and better than any other driver so no wonder he wins the WDC. The one with the second best record is Alonso.
Maybe the points in the WDC listing gives an indicator of something. :D

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So I was wondering, when was the last time Alonso finished outside the points?
It has to be a long time?

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jknights wrote:Well Vettel wins his 4th WDC.
Newey wins his 10th Constructors Championship.

LOL... Who says that the car has nothing to do with it.


That said this year Vettel has driven consistently, faster and better than any other driver so no wonder he wins the WDC. The one with the second best record is Alonso.
Maybe the points in the WDC listing gives an indicator of something. :D
or look at the WCC, Vettels points alone is enough to be on top spot

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mikeerfol wrote:So I was wondering, when was the last time Alonso finished outside the points?
It has to be a long time?
If you looked up his stats at wiki you'd find that last time he actually finished the race at position outside the points was at the British GP in 2010.

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ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
Wrong strategy for Kimi. Had he pitted on lap 13 like Romain he would have been on the podium.
His tires started to be worn out 6-7 laps before the finish line.

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RubberSoul wrote:
ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
Wrong strategy for Kimi. Had he pitted on lap 13 like Romain he would have been on the podium.
His tires started to be worn out 6-7 laps before the finish line.
Actually that would never work, Kimi had brake overheating problems and he was on the dirty air of Hulk, his tyres were gone at that point as you can see when he lost places at the first stint. It was the right strategy but it did not work out for him as it did on RoGro. Romain manage the tires perfectly.

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As predicted, ridiculous strategy call to put Alonso on mediums when, for once, he had the pace to start on the front row with the softs. If you start in 8th, you always run the risk of getting involved in incidents and, lo and behold, that's exactly what happened.

Seeing Massa come out of the pits from his first stop just behind Vettel made it particularly infuriating. Never mind that Alonso - had he started in 2nd, which was a real possibility - might have got Vettel at the start, even if he had been in Massa's exact position, I would have fancied him to follow Vettel through the traffic. Massa has never been able to fight his way through the pack and so it proved again.

Never going to make a difference to Vettel in the championship, and not very likely for the race, and he clearly deserves yet another title. I actually think he's one of the best overtakers out there - just as good as Alonso and Hamilton - so there's really no question mark over his ability for me. Is he yet as good as Prost? Who knows, but it doesn't really make much difference. He's definitely got what it takes to win and will continue to do so as long as he's got a good car.

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IceIceBaby wrote:
RubberSoul wrote:
ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
Wrong strategy for Kimi. Had he pitted on lap 13 like Romain he would have been on the podium.
His tires started to be worn out 6-7 laps before the finish line.
Actually that would never work, Kimi had brake overheating problems and he was on the dirty air of Hulk, his tyres were gone at that point as you can see when he lost places at the first stint. It was the right strategy but it did not work out for him as it did on RoGro. Romain manage the tires perfectly.
can't find place to see the gaps lap by lap, how far would have fallen back had he used the ~24 sec. on a pit stop at say lap 52?

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IceIceBaby wrote:
RubberSoul wrote:
ringo wrote:Grosjean doing a fine job; making the kimster look ordinary. Maybe Romain should have got the Ferrari contract?
Wrong strategy for Kimi. Had he pitted on lap 13 like Romain he would have been on the podium.
His tires started to be worn out 6-7 laps before the finish line.
Actually that would never work, Kimi had brake overheating problems and he was on the dirty air of Hulk, his tyres were gone at that point as you can see when he lost places at the first stint. It was the right strategy but it did not work out for him as it did on RoGro. Romain manage the tires perfectly.
Kimi was pushing in the beginning because he was on a two stop strategy. Had he been on one stop strategy he would have taken care of his tires instead of pushing. He is one of the best, if not the best in that.

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langwadt wrote:
IceIceBaby wrote:
RubberSoul wrote:
Wrong strategy for Kimi. Had he pitted on lap 13 like Romain he would have been on the podium.
His tires started to be worn out 6-7 laps before the finish line.
Actually that would never work, Kimi had brake overheating problems and he was on the dirty air of Hulk, his tyres were gone at that point as you can see when he lost places at the first stint. It was the right strategy but it did not work out for him as it did on RoGro. Romain manage the tires perfectly.
can't find place to see the gaps lap by lap, how far would have fallen back had he used the ~24 sec. on a pit stop at say lap 52?
Try http://en.mclarenf-1.com/

However, in my view it was too late then.