Spanish GP 2010 - Barcelona

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Algusuari had an amzing race, a mistake coming across Chandhok, but overall one of the best drives of the race.

Best start I have seen in a long time. He is getting better by the minute.
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@Ringo; from what i believe it was the rim, again. It happened before in 2007 and 2008 too, i believe even in 2009 but i cant remember that one. It seems to be a structural mclaren problem. Or, if you are correct it is just an problem of hamiltons driving style, this isnt the first time it happens to him and he is the only driver to wich it happened in the past years.

I loved to wach alguerasari race, it was great to see him going past the other drivers, one point for him wich isnt bad in a STR and after a drive through, he drove a great race and apart from a few mistakes due to lack of experience he is showing that he is actualy a worthy F1 driver
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Giblet wrote:Algusuari had an amzing race, a mistake coming across Chandhok, but overall one of the best drives of the race.

Best start I have seen in a long time. He is getting better by the minute.
I agree completely. He was doing really well up and seemed comfortable.
However I also think he got a bit impatient when trying for the overtake then. He'll gain the knowledge and professionalism to wait for the straight (which was a few corners away) where the overtake would've been easy.

Great drive, showed some rookie skills though.
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vall
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Giblet wrote:Algusuari had an amzing race, a mistake coming across Chandhok, but overall one of the best drives of the race.

Best start I have seen in a long time. He is getting better by the minute.
+1 He seems to be made of good material. Let's see how he will develop.

Otherwise, not much overtaking, but sill interesting race. Many close battles.

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andrew wrote:Button can't pass? Right, so that wasn't him driving in Brazil 2009. Come to think of it there wasn't a whole lot of passing from anyone.
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wesley123 wrote:@Ringo; from what i believe it was the rim, again. It happened before in 2007 and 2008 too, i believe even in 2009 but i cant remember that one. It seems to be a structural mclaren problem. Or, if you are correct it is just an problem of hamiltons driving style, this isnt the first time it happens to him and he is the only driver to wich it happened in the past years.
Have you forgotten Heikki's huge shunt because a stone machined down his wheel... at Spain of all places? Some of the selective memories on this board are amazing.

plenty of drivers have had tire related problems since BS has taken over a couple years ago.

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Pandamasque wrote:
andrew wrote:Button can't pass? Right, so that wasn't him driving in Brazil 2009. Come to think of it there wasn't a whole lot of passing from anyone.
Do not feed the troll.
Sorry, I should know better by now. :oops:

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Redbull quali pace seems to be a false representation of their true pace. Or maybe they never will get a time where the car is with the quali fuel load and the tyres in good condition during the race. The seem to be super fast on a good set of softs alone.

About Lewis problem, i don't think it was his style per say. He was not sliding around or understeering, the pace was there. So it could be said that the tyres had enough grip left.
If he was struggling and then the tyres ripped, then i would say it was his style. But it seems the tyre went by itself.

They should be able to do the race distance with the worst of grip, but yet hold it's structural integrity. For some reason the tyres failed, indicating it's a matter of desing.
The tyres should at least be desinged to withstand the torture of the most tortuous track and driver. If it loses all it's grip it should at least be able to hold together. It's a dangerous situation when a tyre goes out in a corner like that.

Oh well, that's just racing, better luck next time for Lewis, though the points standings don't look to good for him.
Alonso is very close to the top of the board now, with Button holding on like he did the second half last year.
Webber's win was welcome, good that another driver gets a win this time around. The Vettel finger was getting annoying. :lol: He would have trebled if Hamilton never took the fastest lap.
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wesley123 wrote:@Ringo; from what i believe it was the rim, again. It happened before in 2007 and 2008 too, i believe even in 2009 but i cant remember that one. It seems to be a structural mclaren problem. Or, if you are correct it is just an problem of hamiltons driving style, this isnt the first time it happens to him and he is the only driver to wich it happened in the past years.
Seb seemed to crash his car over the curbs a lot more than Webber especially at the chicane with the raised curbs - I wonder if that is what did the damage?
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ringo wrote:Redbull quali pace seems to be a false representation of their true pace. Or maybe they never will get a time where the car is with the quali fuel load and the tyres in good condition during the race. The seem to be super fast on a good set of softs alone.
I disagree, Webber clearly said he was looking after his car and tires for the whole race and just conserving them - he is a big fan of Sir Jack Brabhams Motto of Winning at the slowest possible speed.
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ringo wrote:About Lewis problem, i don't think it was his style per say. He was not sliding around or understeering, the pace was there. So it could be said that the tyres had enough grip left.

... but this was also the case in Turkey. no? And yet his tire failed. Not arguing it was his style, but it may be, given his record...

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vall wrote:
ringo wrote:About Lewis problem, i don't think it was his style per say. He was not sliding around or understeering, the pace was there. So it could be said that the tyres had enough grip left.

... but this was also the case in Turkey. no? And yet his tire failed. Not arguing it was his style, but it may be, given his record...
Yes and Alonso blows up FErrari engines, given his record... and Vettel just destroys the whole car... given his record.

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djos wrote:
ringo wrote:Redbull quali pace seems to be a false representation of their true pace. Or maybe they never will get a time where the car is with the quali fuel load and the tyres in good condition during the race. The seem to be super fast on a good set of softs alone.
I disagree, Webber clearly said he was looking after his car and tires for the whole race and just conserving them - he is a big fan of Sir Jack Brabhams Motto of Winning at the slowest possible speed.
How can you look after the tires and the car and build a 17 sec gap and pulling away from LH and SV at they moment who both were pushing?That doenst fit there and we know that drivers are bulls#@$ting us all the times with such comments.Lets take Mark out of this,then how you explain SV not been able to close the gap to LH on the sister car?Except that you believe that SV's car was sabotaged.

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ringo wrote:Fastest lap of the race. Almost if Redbull is geared to be fast specially for qualifying. In the race the Mclaren is the quickest once again. Or maybe it's the driver.
That's right. It's always been like this, Red Bulls are fast in qualifying but in the race it's the Mclaren who's got the the better car.just look how many overtaking Hamilton has done this season, this guy's really got the talent and I think he's the best out there.
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The only time Webber was holding the gap was when it was at 11 seconds for most of the race. He turned it up as soon as Vettel fell back. Webber was pushing, ripping of fastest times in all 3 sectors up to 0.4 seconds a sector faster than Hamilton. While this was happening Vettel was going a little slower than hamilton. I don't believe Webber is that quick that he can take his time and be 4 tenths per sector faster than he teammates best, even when Vettel was on softs.
Webber saw Alonso pick up the Pace, so did Lewis and he responded.

11 to 17 seconds is not holding a gap. He relaxed when Lewis carried the 17 seconds back down to 10.

All in all the Mclaren is just as fast as the redbull on track. 2 races now Mclaren have had the fastest lap.
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