Silly season 2010

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WhiteBlue wrote:I think that we can take the Toyota pull out pretty much as fact. Joe Saward confirmed it in his blog that he got independant confirmation from his Japanese sources.

It means Sauber are in and we have to consider who will drive for them.

If McLaren are rational they will hire Nick to avoid clashes and get a successfull points scoring strategy going.

Kimi wants to ralley after his F1 carreer and McLaren are not going to let him and pay his salary. Actually with his severance money from Ferrari he needs no full salary. He can drive for Peter Sauber on a small salary and go rallying at the same time. Itis a win/win for both sides and they know each other. That allways helps to explain tough deals to the press. Kimi can be a Rally hero and Sauber can fill a seat with a superb driver for a year or tweo.
Well I thought he would not get the McLaren drive but he would go back to Sauber.
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Rob W wrote:Is this all the evidence we need - since teams ought to be the experts on this..

Options are: Alonso, Lewis, Kimi or Button.
This deserves a thread of its own i think!

I'm not a fan of his, but Lewis would have to be the obvious choice in my mind.
Quick like Alonso & Kimi, but has the overriding advantage of marketability in more markets reaching a wider-fanbase of consumers and businesses. He gets the results of the other two, but makes the marketing department's job so much much easier!

I would even go as far as saying i'd choose Rosberg over Kimi & Jenson, and it'd be a tough choice between him and Alonso..
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Fil wrote:This deserves a thread of its own i think!

I'm not a fan of his, but Lewis would have to be the obvious choice in my mind.
Quick like Alonso & Kimi, but has the overriding advantage of marketability in more...
See, interesting reasons people have. I'd have picked Alonso. Simply because he's the one out of the four who has proven miles beyond any of the others that he can still get podiums/results when the car isn't right. Kimi and Lewis in particular (like Hakinnen years ago) suffer really badly when they can't get the set-up quite right. Alonso seems to hustle through this with much better results.

Likewise, you could argue that Alonso actually has the more globally marketable image. He gets the English-speaking and Spanish/Latin world which make up another 750 million so people (Spaniards are almost proxy South Americans).

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I am kind of glad merc bought Brawn, it gives heidfeld a chance to get a good drive no matter what happens.. hopefully.
I have a feeling Merc and Maclren will agree to mix up the teams and keep them multi national for their mutual benefit. Whatever Button wants they should try to come to some middle ground with him. The should offer him the 8 mill.
Heidfeld should not have to play #2 to rosberg, i don't think he could stand being in the shadows of his fellow country man. Better he stays with Lewis and still be able to be the Boss outside of the UK, when it comes to german fans. Rosberg only prevents him from going all out.
Kimi, well i hope he returns in 2011, i wanted to have the showdown at Mclaren, but can't have it all.
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It's gonna feel weird without Kimi.. one less star on the grid.. I wonder who will step up next year?
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If Button goes to McLaren, does that mean there's no chance of Kimi in 2010? Seems like he could go to Brawn, if they can afford him & Rosberg.

He could also go to Red Bull. The 2nd STR seat is still available & they could send Weber there. Stranger things have happened in F1.

Perhaps we'll find out how bad Kimi really wants to drive in F1.

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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80187

Kimi goes for vacation.
Is RedBull link anything more than pure speculation?

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Currently pure speculation & a matter of Webber's remaining 1yr contract..

2010 will also be Mark's first season as a team principal with his F3 team in partnership with Horner.. that adds further fuel to the speculation.
Mark has already spoken of this sort of role as 'his logical next step.'
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as an old marketing man I wouldn't even look at alonso unless I was just interested in spain ...there is an old adage ....follow the money ...the number of people is not relevant
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WRONG MOVE FOR BUTTON



he will learn it the hard way

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if this is true , will be a great move by ML
a bit of a tortoise and hare situation , and we all know who won that , don't we !

it already seems clear that there will be more than one strategy possible with next years new regs ....and covering the bases [ as our colonial friends say ] with two different ones could well be the road to success ; and for me hamilton / button is the ideal pairing for that syndrome ; which is better will depend on the circuit as I see it !

my only fear is that the new car will already have been designed to play on hamilton's strengths , they tried to do that this year though and look what happened ...a dog ! but if he can get a set - up that suits him button will keep hamilton at the limit to keep him at bay

but what now for brawn/mercedes ? a temporising year in my view , unless a certain german comes out of retirement !I think ross may know him from somewhere :D
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Button just needs a well balanced car to perform well. For those saying its a wrong move, its really not.

Mclaren have always been up the grid, they've always been able to develop their cars well and take this year for example. Brawn came out with a storming car but slowly lost it over the course of the season because their development stopped, Mclaren did the exact opposite whilst starting developing the 2010 contender early.

This is such a logical choice for Button, Brawn/Mercedes may well be a one hit wonder but mclaren never have been or will be. His driving style will suit next year's cars much more than Hamilton's style will, Hammy will destroy tyres like he always has but button will be able to make them last which might even give him the edge. Look out, 2010 should be one really interesting season and I hope all the Button haters are finally silenced...