2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Here is lap 49, just for reference. Nothing changes essentially. Overall advantage was even smaller, just 6 tenths, rather than 8.
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Horner out, Oakes in

That's the current rumour anyway . would be better not to have a sexpest running the team

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organic wrote:
06 May 2025, 23:33
Horner out, Oakes in

That's the current rumour anyway . would be better not to have a sexpest running the team
Why is Oakes the person who's rumoured to come? Asking to gather information, because I have no clue about who he is and what his skills are

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kediown wrote:
06 May 2025, 23:41
organic wrote:
06 May 2025, 23:33
Horner out, Oakes in

That's the current rumour anyway . would be better not to have a sexpest running the team
Why is Oakes the person who's rumoured to come? Asking to gather information, because I have no clue about who he is and what his skills are
He's just resigned from Alpine TP.

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Sergej wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:04
kediown wrote:
06 May 2025, 23:41
organic wrote:
06 May 2025, 23:33
Horner out, Oakes in

That's the current rumour anyway . would be better not to have a sexpest running the team
Why is Oakes the person who's rumoured to come? Asking to gather information, because I have no clue about who he is and what his skills are
He's just resigned from Alpine TP.
I know that much thankfully :lol:
But for what reason Red Bull would be after him?

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organic wrote:
06 May 2025, 23:33
Horner out, Oakes in
Not believable.
It doesn't turn.

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I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
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It doesn't turn.

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:46
I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
Supposedly it's coming next race

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:46
I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
Just have someone at the pitwall pouring a bucket of water onto the track right before Max is turning to the start/finish straight. Max goes into it and then he is good for an other lap. Is there a rule against this?

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Paa wrote:
07 May 2025, 01:03
AR3-GP wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:46
I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
Just have someone at the pitwall pouring a bucket of water onto the track right before Max is turning to the start/finish straight. Max goes into it and then he is good for an other lap. Is there a rule against this?
F1technical.net peaked right here. :lol:

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Paa wrote:
07 May 2025, 01:03
AR3-GP wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:46
I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
Just have someone at the pitwall pouring a bucket of water onto the track right before Max is turning to the start/finish straight. Max goes into it and then he is good for an other lap. Is there a rule against this?
Made me laugh so loud thank you =D>

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organic wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:48
AR3-GP wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:46
I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
Supposedly it's coming next race
The solution is coming mostly next race since about a year. With sometimes slightly shifting targets, but never more than three races.

No, I think the straw is the flexing wing TD. I can not see how they want to find and design the McLaren brake drum without one of these exposed by going up in fire or similar. They will work on this always, but McLaren does the same. This is most probably no 0.7sec magic bullet.
Don`t russel the hamster!

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basti313 wrote:
07 May 2025, 10:19
organic wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:48
AR3-GP wrote:
07 May 2025, 00:46
I think the rest of the year is actually very simple. Forget about TDs. There's only 1 update that this car really needs. Tire cooling. That will unlock everything. I expect that Red Bull will invest a lot of time in it because they will use a similar concept if 2026 if they want to be competitive.
Supposedly it's coming next race
The solution is coming mostly next race since about a year. With sometimes slightly shifting targets, but never more than three races.

No, I think the straw is the flexing wing TD. I can not see how they want to find and design the McLaren brake drum without one of these exposed by going up in fire or similar. They will work on this always, but McLaren does the same. This is most probably no 0.7sec magic bullet.
Autoracer have said multiple times that McLaren-inspired cake tins come at either Miami or imola, and they were not declared at Miami.

Probably it's not a magic bullet, but McLaren didn't behave like this in 2024 imo. So it is an innovation that is possible to achieve in one step

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After reading the recent developments, I'm not convinced anymore that we will see these McLaren like ducts in Imola, unless they are only a first part of a bigger package in that zone. Reading between the lines of different sources it seems they are working in that area so Imola seems to me too early to come with a definitive solution.

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AR3-GP wrote:
02 May 2025, 17:38
organic wrote:
02 May 2025, 17:34
Still considering this minor / don't think this is the fully new floor with diffuser/tunnel changes
It doesn't make sense to introduce a "new floor" as a physical component, including a spare, to then introduce another new floor with another set of spares 2 weeks later. Definitely not in a budget cap era.

Also, considering that they were unable to give these changes to Tsunoda, then perhaps the changes are not so minor.
Parts not brought to the track are not part of the cost cap. Could it be they did a Quick and dirty mod on just one floor to assess if they'd introduce a new floor in Imola?

As you say, a new floor is at least 4 pieces and bodywork to match.