Button Proves Some Right

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strad wrote:BTW, the original point was that the cars are so safe that the drivers do things and take chances they never would if they thought for an instant that they would be hurt. That in fact is the gripe; The only thing that they really care about is if they get hurt, not the competitors. They never give that a thought.
Dunno about you, but I'd count this one as dangerous:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7lOQLWB3kA[/youtube]

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megz wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
megz wrote:Look from 1.50 onward for Lewis' pass on Glock... you can't say he left him room here.
Lawl... Did you even listen to the commentators? "Hamilton has to leave space, otherwise he'll just be spun around". He left a good chunk of space on the inside there, Glock chose not to use it.

Edit: Rewatched it, and now I see what you're referring to. And no – at all times Glock had a tyre on the track, which counts as on the track. Therefore he didn't force anyone off the track there.
You don't think that's a touch dangerous, 3 wheels on the sodden grass at 2.31 into the video? You can also see that the dry line is about two car widths wide AND that good chunk of space on the inside there is on Hamilton's side of the circuit, Glock can't get there without a) backing off while being side by side or b) becoming semi-solid and driving through a McLaren MP4-23 ;)
Yes, one could say it was indeed dangerous to try and re-pass someone on a very wet track, when the only dryish line takes them right to the edge of the track and you know you're going to be forced off.

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I know the rule,,,Not all their rules are right...Do you think ALL the rules are correct and proper?
Dangerous? Which part...Sometimes he could be an artist.
Robert: I agree.
To achieve anything, you must be prepared to dabble on the boundary of disaster.”
Sir Stirling Moss

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beelsebob wrote: Yes, one could say it was indeed dangerous to try and re-pass someone on a very wet track, when the only dryish line takes them right to the edge of the track and you know you're going to be forced off.
Know you're going to be forced off? So now the drivers begin the race knowing that should they attempt to race against certain drivers they will be forced to race on the grass because the driver with the room refuses to allow any for the competitor?

I don't think many drivers would be happy to hear that at a drivers' briefing.

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megz wrote:
beelsebob wrote: Yes, one could say it was indeed dangerous to try and re-pass someone on a very wet track, when the only dryish line takes them right to the edge of the track and you know you're going to be forced off.
Know you're going to be forced off? So now the drivers begin the race knowing that should they attempt to race against certain drivers they will be forced to race on the grass because the driver with the room refuses to allow any for the competitor?

I don't think many drivers would be happy to hear that at a drivers' briefing.
No, they begin the race knowing that should they put themselves between a car on the racing line and the edge of the track, in an area where the racing line goes close to the edge of the track, they stand a risk of ending up with wheels on the grass.

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Fair enough, I just don't think that any driver should be pushing another OFF the circuit in the slightest, just isn't the gentlemanly or fair thing to do (in my opinion).