2026 Scuderia Ferrari HP F1 Team

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Dee wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 22:55
Luscion wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 22:35
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 22:19


A driver being publicly rebuked by a renowned multi-national corporation, longtime F1 supplier, and Italian company is very strange to say the least. There is something else going on. :?
Apparently Lewis switched to carbon industries brake discs in Japan which he prefers and Charles stuck with brembo and is having all these issue. Makes sense why Brembo came out with a public statement that its not their brakes that are the issue

Well, it would in fact mean it is their issue.

My only query is, why is Charles so angry now?

Is there politics at play? Charles spoke to the media about the issue now, why? Why didn't he change to them in Japan like Lewis did?

I dont think it has anything to do with Ferrari internal politics. Lewis just wanted Carbon Industries brake discs as those give him a better feel, they tested it during pre season and Ferrari agreed to it. Charles stuck with what has always worked for him, brembo, but in the last two races they have been unreliable in his eyes. To me Charles statements after the race make sense about him knowing the solution to the problem but not having enough confidence to try the change in Monaco, which was swapping to CI brake discs, he also straight up said Lewis is using different brakes and he will swap to them next race in a post race interview
Lewis has been using different brakes for three races and I think I'll be using them from the next race too
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Yeah Brembo is italian and Ferrari probably wanted to pretend they still use them on both cars, and now leclerc had enough and wants to burn it all down, lol.

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MattLightBlue wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:07
Dee wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 22:57
El_KaPpa wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 22:52
If Lewis switched to Carbon Industries weeks ago in Japan, so why are Leclerc’s brakes suddenly a major problem since Canada? Brakes don't just change behavior overnight. It’s funny how this miracle issue appears right when Hamilton completely outclassed him.
Well the team have two cars using two different brakes and the drivers use the same setup, is it better for one than the other?
It could be that the issue only appeared in Canada and Monaco because they were more demanding tracks on brakes, and they require a lot less clipping (which means the braking is done mostly by mgu-k).
Anyway, the better performance should always win in F1, politics better stay out of this if all true.
Leclerc already began complaining about the brakes in Miami to some extent though, right? Either way, I understand now why Charles didn't switch this race. Having to use a totally new brake disc for Monaco (especially from a company he's never used before) doesn't seem like a smart idea.

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FNTC wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:07
Yeah Brembo is italian and Ferrari probably wanted to pretend they still use them on both cars, and now leclerc had enough and wants to burn it all down, lol.
It's just the brake discs that are Carbon Industries, the rest of the system is still brembo

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:13
MattLightBlue wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:07
Dee wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 22:57


Well the team have two cars using two different brakes and the drivers use the same setup, is it better for one than the other?
It could be that the issue only appeared in Canada and Monaco because they were more demanding tracks on brakes, and they require a lot less clipping (which means the braking is done mostly by mgu-k).
Anyway, the better performance should always win in F1, politics better stay out of this if all true.
Leclerc already began complaining about the brakes in Miami to some extent though, right? Either way, I understand now why Charles didn't switch this race. Having to use a totally new brake disc for Monaco (especially from a company he's never used before) doesn't seem like a smart idea.
Well in hindsight using brakes that you are already not happy with seems silly as well right? The devil you know and such.

Im kinda baffled a team would do this and is it even allowed though, different brakes for both cars...

Edit: nm just the discs, hmkay
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Yeah, Leclerc used all Brembo, Lewis CI discs with the rest Brembo, as far as I have read.
Easy to blame the discs after the crash, but he would probably take a while to get used to new discs too.

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Gillian wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:23
SoulPancake13 wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:13
MattLightBlue wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:07


It could be that the issue only appeared in Canada and Monaco because they were more demanding tracks on brakes, and they require a lot less clipping (which means the braking is done mostly by mgu-k).
Anyway, the better performance should always win in F1, politics better stay out of this if all true.
Leclerc already began complaining about the brakes in Miami to some extent though, right? Either way, I understand now why Charles didn't switch this race. Having to use a totally new brake disc for Monaco (especially from a company he's never used before) doesn't seem like a smart idea.
Well in hindsight using brakes that you are already not happy with seems silly as well right? The devil you know and such.

Im kinda baffled a team would do this and is it even allowed though, different brakes for both cars...

Edit: nm just the discs, hmkay
It's a lose lose. In hindsight, he should have switched but his decision not to is understandable given the track's characteristics.

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Are they not the same brakes he had in the first 3 races?
#REPEALtheADUO

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:27
Are they not the same brakes he had in the first 3 races?
According to Autoracer Hamilton used CI discs since Japan.

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FNTC wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:29
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:27
Are they not the same brakes he had in the first 3 races?
According to Autoracer Hamilton used CI discs since Japan.
I mean Leclerc. Why can he no longer stop the car when his brakes are the same.
#REPEALtheADUO

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Lewis stopping himself last year from saying brembo was an issue



Article from the race last year that went into details on how lewis brakes, why lewis was struggling and why Carbone Industrie suited him better

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/what ... to-fix-it/
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https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/char ... criticism/
"I don’t know how much I can go into the details, but...I don't think...it's just not acceptable," Leclerc said after his exit.

"The issues I have faced with my brakes have been...it's not that it’s difficult, it's that in this particular moment, it's just impossible.

"I cannot do anything. The only thing I can do is not brake for the last corner, but in an F1 corner not braking in the last corner ends up in the wall anyway. I put the least amount of brakes I could possibly do, and it's not even braking, it's leaning my foot on the brake."

He claimed that "out of the four brakes, I had three brakes not working" at the time of the crash and said it was like "the callipers were not even in the car", but had not experienced "those problems, at least to that extent" until the race was neutralised for Stroll's crash.

"The problem was the safety car. As soon as I did the safety car, three of my four brakes stopped working. I could never switch them on again, nothing was working anymore," Leclerc said.

"I tried to do many actions in the car to try and help it. The only solution I had was to not brake in the last corner, but I would have crashed in Turn 1.

"There's no way I could have done a lap, there was just no solution, so we'll have to look into it.

"I don't know if it was a wear issue, it's often a problem here. I don't know what it was, but there was a clear issue."

Leclerc said "I think it's very clear for everyone, I don't think there's any doubt" about what the issue was.

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Re ADUO, Mercedes not being the yardstick is one thing - being judged more than 2% back is blatant deal making imo (showing again how Toto always seems to get the rub of the green with the FIA). Kimi definitely deserves the win today and I don’t really desire otherwise, but that red flag restart would likely have been different had Ferrari’s starts not been neutered by politicking.

That aside though, a 4% ADUO concession is great for us - it means we can bring something soon without having to worry about it being the definitive engine upgrade. This means we can maybe close the gap with Spain upgrade + Austria engine improvement, with the big engine step still to come by Monza. Hamilton is 2nd in the championship now!

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AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:31
FNTC wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:29
AR3-GP wrote:
07 Jun 2026, 23:27
Are they not the same brakes he had in the first 3 races?
According to Autoracer Hamilton used CI discs since Japan.
I mean Leclerc. Why can he no longer stop the car when his brakes are the same.
I wonder if it could be the time spent under braking in Canada and Monaco is more than the tracks theyve been at previous to them exposing an issue with these new gen of cars?

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In my opinion, Mercedes being granted any ADUO at all significantly weakens the effectiveness of Ferrari's ADUO concession. It just means that Mercedes have to release all the updates as a single bigger PU update (PU 3 or PU 4) where Ferrari will likely introduce it in smaller steps (PU 3 and PU 4).
#REPEALtheADUO