2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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And stiffness, if your suspension doesn't work as you expect because the monocoque is flexing....

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Wouter wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 13:22
FrukostScones wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 12:47
Wouter wrote:
23 Jul 2019, 19:03


Thanks for the answer, but you don't need to say sorry. :wink:
the headline says kind of : "RB has homologated a new tub, ..., the goal is to extent tyre life and so to repeat Austria success in Germany and Hungary":"
From that sentence you could indeed conclude that.
However, it is something that Giorgio Piola says / suspects.
We're going to see it in a few days. RBR has not yet announced anything, insiders also know nothing about it.
yes, it is concluded from that. that RB has passed new tub crashetest at Cranfield https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/facilities/ ... act-centre.
there is the info on new Merc and RB tubs coming from accoring to the motorsport.it articles.
Maybe RB will confirm the coming days when it will be introduced...
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PhillipM wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 14:25
And stiffness, if your suspension doesn't work as you expect because the monocoque is flexing....
Actually including all the formentioned.

A new chassis can included changes to the frame/design, suspension, weight distribution, added stiffness or added flexing :wink: .

Although I've a got hunch we can expect a redesigned suspension and shifted weight distribution.
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FrukostScones wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 14:35
Cranfield https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/facilities/ ... act-centre.
there is the info on new Merc and RB tubs coming from
You posted this link from the home page. Where can I find the crash tests? Do you know?
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Wouter wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 14:47
FrukostScones wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 14:35
Cranfield https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/facilities/ ... act-centre.
there is the info on new Merc and RB tubs coming from
You posted this link from the home page. Where can I find the crash tests? Do you know?
It is just general information.
The info is from insiders from this facility according to the motorsport.it articles.
Finishing races is important, but racing is more important.

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FrukostScones wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 15:09
Wouter wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 14:47
FrukostScones wrote:
24 Jul 2019, 14:35
Cranfield https://www.cranfield.ac.uk/facilities/ ... act-centre.
there is the info on new Merc and RB tubs coming from
You posted this link from the home page. Where can I find the crash tests? Do you know?
It is just general information.
The info is from insiders from this facility according to the motorsport.it articles.
Oké, thanks.
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So if there is a high chance of rain, 70% I believe, could that influence RBR or STR at taking a new PU for at least one of their cars, assuming the PU upgrade is ready.

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Datco wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:13
So if there is a high chance of rain, 70% I believe, could that influence RBR or STR at taking a new PU for at least one of their cars, assuming the PU upgrade is ready.
Not sure what you mean mate.

Why would the rain effect taking a new PU ?

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Wet races put less strain on engines as they tend to be run less aggressively.

If they can avoid a new PU this race then they might be able to avoid taking an extra unit during the season.
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Webber2011 wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:22
Datco wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:13
So if there is a high chance of rain, 70% I believe, could that influence RBR or STR at taking a new PU for at least one of their cars, assuming the PU upgrade is ready.
Not sure what you mean mate.

Why would the rain effect taking a new PU ?
I am thinking better chance of making up places starting from the back. It has a potential of throwing out strategies over uncertainty, so even being in the lead is under risk as Vettel found out last year. Start on the harder tyre instead of softer that you have to when going for q3. With harder tyers run longer and wait for the rain before pitting. Nothing is guaranteed but it does give a better opportunity to move up the field as opposed to starting at the back in dry conditions

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Just_a_fan wrote:Wet races put less strain on engines as they tend to be run less aggressively.

If they can avoid a new PU this race then they might be able to avoid taking an extra unit during the season.
I don’t think at this point they are worried about the grid penalties. If Honda has an upgrade that will draw them closer to MB, I suspect they will find the best place to take the penalty.

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Webber2011 wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:22
Datco wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:13
So if there is a high chance of rain, 70% I believe, could that influence RBR or STR at taking a new PU for at least one of their cars, assuming the PU upgrade is ready.
Not sure what you mean mate.

Why would the rain effect taking a new PU ?
Well I think some folks have this in mind.

Or the one from F1 itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO3q69x2sXA
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shingles wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:19
Just_a_fan wrote:Wet races put less strain on engines as they tend to be run less aggressively.

If they can avoid a new PU this race then they might be able to avoid taking an extra unit during the season.
I don’t think at this point they are worried about the grid penalties. If Honda has an upgrade that will draw them closer to MB, I suspect they will find the best place to take the penalty.
And best place to take penalties is tracks where it's easy to overtake and wet weather

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Just_a_fan wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:30
Wet races put less strain on engines as they tend to be run less aggressively.

If they can avoid a new PU this race then they might be able to avoid taking an extra unit during the season.
Taking a penalty and starting from the back at the right track might mean ending up finishing 5th or 6th, while a retirement means a DNF. You still willing to roll the dice ?

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Espresso wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 14:21
Webber2011 wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:22
Datco wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 13:13
So if there is a high chance of rain, 70% I believe, could that influence RBR or STR at taking a new PU for at least one of their cars, assuming the PU upgrade is ready.
Not sure what you mean mate.

Why would the rain effect taking a new PU ?
Well I think some folks have this in mind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1polDa_YVh4
Or the one from F1 itself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO3q69x2sXA
Yeah, that will not happen with the amount of Grip and DF Merc have, they'll run away with it. Might have a chance with Ferrari though.