2025 Spanish Grand Prix - Barcelona-Catalunya May 30 - June 1

[Mogster]

Should have been a DSQ. Just a man child tantrum.

[Tvetovnato]

I’m a bit unsure of this one right now. Max cannot be that stupid that he crashes into George on purpose there, risking a race ban or another severe penalty. I think when he got the order to let him through, he did at first, but then regretted it to let him past so he has a DRS chance for the main straight instead. Which is fair if allowed to make that kind of swap, but it really shouldn’t be. That’s another story though. But either way it’s of course strange that he went in so hot into T5 with George, so who knows, maybe it still was a little bit deliberate to prove a point. He definitely has enough car control to keep it closer to the apex if he wanted to…

Weird strategy by Red Bull also. Why not keep the softs and the lead going into the final laps? Surely gives you a better chance to get a good result when the hards were avoided like the plague all weekend. They dropped the ball here for sure.

[Mogster]

I’m a bit unsure of this one right now. Max cannot be that stupid that he crashes into George on purpose there, risking a race ban or another severe penalty. I think when he got the order to let him through, he did at first, but then regretted it to let him past so he has a DRS chance for the main straight instead. Which is fair if allowed to make that kind of swap, but it really shouldn’t be. That’s another story though. But either way it’s of course strange that he went in so hot into T5 with George, so who knows, maybe it still was a little bit deliberate to prove a point. He definitely has enough car control to keep it closer to the apex if he wanted to…

Weird strategy by Red Bull also. Why not keep the softs and the lead going into the final laps? Surely gives you a better chance to get a good result when the hards were avoided like the plague all weekend. They dropped the ball here for sure.

It was 100% deliberate. It was a calculated wheel to wheel bash to make sure he didn’t damage his car.

Verstappen is losing it.

[woocasz]

Leclerc eating hamilton for breakfast.

In fairness he’s been in this team for a lot of years versus somebody who had come in the season where every single thing is new from engine to brakes.

somebody? you mean 7th time WDC
how long do you think we have to wait to compare two drivers fairly?
one whole season? two? then you would say that Leclerc is in his 9th season at Ferrari and Hamilton is ‘only’ in his 2nd season.
then explain to me how Charles beat Vettel in his 1st season at Ferrari??
Leclerc was 22 and Sebastain 32 at this time.

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Was there any explanation given why Verstappen only had hards left? After Qualifying he still had 4 sets of softs (one new, three three-lap old), of which he used three in the race.

I guess it's possible that he used them to get to the grid?

[Quantum]

In future races we will have drivers deliberately hitting others to help team mates score points

Precedent set.
The excuse that it's "entertaining" wont hold up very long when it works the other way.

Also interesting that McLaren had a clean sweep on the first weekend of the FIA Technical directive.
So much for the reported "McLaren will be nowhere" commentary coming from certain quarters.

[Tvetovnato]

I’m a bit unsure of this one right now. Max cannot be that stupid that he crashes into George on purpose there, risking a race ban or another severe penalty. I think when he got the order to let him through, he did at first, but then regretted it to let him past so he has a DRS chance for the main straight instead. Which is fair if allowed to make that kind of swap, but it really shouldn’t be. That’s another story though. But either way it’s of course strange that he went in so hot into T5 with George, so who knows, maybe it still was a little bit deliberate to prove a point. He definitely has enough car control to keep it closer to the apex if he wanted to…

Weird strategy by Red Bull also. Why not keep the softs and the lead going into the final laps? Surely gives you a better chance to get a good result when the hards were avoided like the plague all weekend. They dropped the ball here for sure.

It was 100% deliberate. It was a calculated wheel to wheel bash to make sure he didn’t damage his car.

Verstappen is losing it.

Yeah just a shame that we cannot see his cockpit cam on F1 TV. The camera view was the rear wing view on his car, so we cannot see his steering input. But yes, it looked very weird. Should it be proved it was deliberate they need to deal with him once and for all.

[selvam_e2002]

Next Vettel RB is cooking. I would say, it is RB failure . They did it with Vettel and now Max. It is a reminder of Vettel vs Ham. Not good for sport.

[Waz]

Was there any explanation given why Verstappen only had hards left? After Qualifying he still had 4 sets of softs (one new, three three-lap old), of which he used three in the race.

I guess it's possible that he used them to get to the grid?

That was a blunder of note. I think GP told him it was the only new tires left. Maybe they expected the McLarens to fit the same? Or at least Ferrari.

Every other driver from Q3 must have fitted a used set though of Softs during that SC.

[Gillian]

Next Vettel RB is cooking. I would say, it is RB failure . They did it with Vettel and now Max. It is a reminder of Vettel vs Ham. Not good for sport.

Totally agree! Reminded me of Baku as well, though that was even more blatant. Really don't like to see this on track.

[Mcl_G10]

Mclaren actually not as far ahead today in race pace as I expected in these temps. Are others starting to close that hot weather performance advantage that mclaren have?

[Shrieker]

Max once again showing he's a stupid bully who will use his car as a weapon if you so much as dare an overtake attempt on him.

George isn't the first, and will be far from the last if a proper precedent isn't set. And by the looks if it, it won't be sadly.

[Seerix]

The thread is weirdly quiet, isn't it?
btw Max won driver of the day.

[Mcl_G10]

Hiding horner

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Was there any explanation given why Verstappen only had hards left? After Qualifying he still had 4 sets of softs (one new, three three-lap old), of which he used three in the race.

I guess it's possible that he used them to get to the grid?

That was a blunder of note. I think GP told him it was the only new tires left. Maybe they expected the McLarens to fit the same? Or at least Ferrari.

Every other driver from Q3 must have fitted a used set though of Softs during that SC.

all other Q3 drivers were not on a three-stopper, though.

I just watched the ORF post race coverage with Marko, who said that all they had left was the new hard and a seven lap old soft.

So if true, Verstappen must have done four grid laps on that set.