2025 McLaren F1 Team

[Balalu]

Lol

Oscars been plenty aggressive this season. Unless he's explained in an interview, I have no.idea what happened at corner 1. It's like he was checking his phone for messages or something.

I don't think it would have won the race to be ahead, but it was our best shot.

There's a few races coming where RBs top speed will be advantageous too.

Oscar said he braked too early.

He just was too cautious.

[_cerber1]

Monaco probably is mcLarens to lose but i wouldnt bet on it after today.

McLaren were very strong on high downforce tracks last year, what makes you think they will be slow in Monaco?

[Ben1980]

I really need to speak my heart out.
McLaren really really needs to up their game. Currently, they lack the spirit to take the fight to MAX. they r playing wayyyyyy tooooo much in the safe zone. Everything seems to be calculative. This is the pinnacle of motor sports. U need to allow the drivers to race to the fullest.
At this rate MAX will eat you’ll. Everything is so safe. Both p and l need to to go all out. It’s ok if they falter.
With the current attitude the driver is gonna loose out.
I’m really disappointed. I see no aggression in the strategy. Stop being a looser

5 wins in 7. What else are they meant to do.

[Slahinki]

Just watched the race. Slow reaction and amateur hour general start by Piastri, defending the wrong car. Like he learned nothing from Norris last year. Proceeds to burn his tires, again, and has to box into a gaggle of traffic. Verstappen won out on the VSC, and then finally the team prefer to have their drivers waste time fighting one another instead of letting the guy on new tires have a go at Max, however unlikely. But at least bloody try to win.

[McLarenHonda]

I really need to speak my heart out.
McLaren really really needs to up their game. Currently, they lack the spirit to take the fight to MAX. they r playing wayyyyyy tooooo much in the safe zone. Everything seems to be calculative. This is the pinnacle of motor sports. U need to allow the drivers to race to the fullest.
At this rate MAX will eat you’ll. Everything is so safe. Both p and l need to to go all out. It’s ok if they falter.
With the current attitude the driver is gonna loose out.
I’m really disappointed. I see no aggression in the strategy. Stop being a looser

5 wins in 7. What else are they meant to do.

This first part of the season is the most crucial one! This is where big points are gained or lost and ultimately the championship! Piastri already lost at least 16 points (maybe even a win) in Australia…

Last year Max won the championship simply by winning every single race he had the opportunity to, at the start of the season before Red Bull lost their advantage!

This is exactly what McLaren should also be doing right now…because I expect the Barcelona TD to have an effect on their performance!

Any big updates planned ahead??

[mwillems]

Claiming it's been close all year is the epitome of blind rhetoric.

Nope, ignoring the circuit and condition specific swing between the cars, the wins, the points, and focusing on a margins of a few races you didn't do well at, is.

Another race today where the myth of the tyre life got a big hit. Even in clean air we couldn't catch Max.

Simple fact is RB can beat us and they can do it often enough, they are faster than us on merit at nearly half the races and there is no reason this wont continue.

McLaren races they could have won on merit: 7/7.

McLaren races they dominated: 4/7.

RB races they could have won on merit: 3/7.

RB races they dominated: 0/7.

All that is to say, it hasn't been "close all year". That's not a prediction of what is going to happen in the future, it's just stating the obvious on what has already happened.

Hugely subjective opinion posed as fact and you're saying RB have not had faster pace at a race to command a win??

Aaaaaaand I'm out

[Aesop]

Monaco probably is mcLarens to lose but i wouldnt bet on it after today.

McLaren were very strong on high downforce tracks last year, what makes you think they will be slow in Monaco?

I don’t think they will be slow, but Redbull surprised me today. Monaco is still McLarens to lose but I don’t expect Miami/Bahrain advantage for Macca. Redbull obviously found something.

[CjC]

I really need to speak my heart out.
McLaren really really needs to up their game. Currently, they lack the spirit to take the fight to MAX. they r playing wayyyyyy tooooo much in the safe zone. Everything seems to be calculative. This is the pinnacle of motor sports. U need to allow the drivers to race to the fullest.
At this rate MAX will eat you’ll. Everything is so safe. Both p and l need to to go all out. It’s ok if they falter.
With the current attitude the driver is gonna loose out.
I’m really disappointed. I see no aggression in the strategy. Stop being a looser

5 wins in 7. What else are they meant to do.

This first part of the season is the most crucial one! This is where big points are gained or lost and ultimately the championship! Piastri already lost at least 16 points (maybe even a win) in Australia…

Last year Max won the championship simply by winning every single race he had the opportunity to, at the start of the season before Red Bull lost their advantage!

This is exactly what McLaren should also be doing right now…because I expect the Barcelona TD to have an effect on their performance!

Any big updates planned ahead??

Last few paragraphs:

https://www.racefans.net/2025/05/16/not ... n-piastri/

[CjC]

You guys are becoming insufferable with this car chat.

Best way to explain it is imagine 2 ovals side by side. One oval is McLaren and the other is Red Bull- both ovals used to slightly over lap but after Red Bulls upgrade they currently over lap a bit more. Then imagine a needle or line which indicates the track layout and weather conditions. The needle is always in the Mclaren oval and for example in Miami the needle is to the farthest side away from the Red Bull oval. Today the needle was in both ovals- far enough into the Red Bull oval to allow Max to win.
The needle will move from race to race, it might be all the way into Red Bulls oval in Monaco and we might see a Mclaren Miami-esque performance from Max next week.

[CjC]

Solid from Mark as always:

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... a-f1-2025/

He describes how the needle was more in Red Bulls oval than McLarens

[Darth-Piekus]

At least some people here have common sense.

[Watto]

Lol

Oscars been plenty aggressive this season. Unless he's explained in an interview, I have no.idea what happened at corner 1. It's like he was checking his phone for messages or something.

I don't think it would have won the race to be ahead, but it was our best shot.

There's a few races coming where RBs top speed will be advantageous too.

Oscar said he braked too early.

He just was too cautious.

I wonder how much it was focused more on George getting up the inside and lost a little focus on Max. Max was a faIr way behind (in relative terms) he was out of mind

Solid from Mark as always:

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... a-f1-2025/

He describes how the needle was more in Red Bulls oval than McLarens

If Oscar lead through T1/2 I think Oscar probably would have won comfortably enough. little lead but managed similar to Max. Even if Max challenged probably not quick enough to get past. From there thing went wrong think it perhaps exposed a little of Oscars weakness in tyre management when really pushed. -only a tiny weakness mind you. -Lando didn't seem to suffer much from being behind George a little while but got past so that helped.

For Oscar from there everything seemed to work against him being put into traffic. That didn't help with tyre management. A cheap stop under the VSC, but put him behind again having to work harder to catch Lando, Then the full safety car. free pit stop for Lando, Oscar didn't;t have any fresh tyres and was a sitting duck though I think he defended Lando pretty well considering.

But even when Lando past wasn't able to made ground on Max.



That said I though Landos over taking this race was decent maybe a little too long behind George but I think it seemed Lando was far more willing to try different moves to keep them guessing which line to cover. Something I don't think he always does.

[chasefreak]

I really need to speak my heart out.
McLaren really really needs to up their game. Currently, they lack the spirit to take the fight to MAX. they r playing wayyyyyy tooooo much in the safe zone. Everything seems to be calculative. This is the pinnacle of motor sports. U need to allow the drivers to race to the fullest.
At this rate MAX will eat you’ll. Everything is so safe. Both p and l need to to go all out. It’s ok if they falter.
With the current attitude the driver is gonna loose out.
I’m really disappointed. I see no aggression in the strategy. Stop being a looser

5 wins in 7. What else are they meant to do.

There is no aggression. Same like last year. Everything is too calculated. This is racing this is war. U need to fight to the fullest to win, to be recognised, to be remembered

[chasefreak]

I really need to speak my heart out.
McLaren really really needs to up their game. Currently, they lack the spirit to take the fight to MAX. they r playing wayyyyyy tooooo much in the safe zone. Everything seems to be calculative. This is the pinnacle of motor sports. U need to allow the drivers to race to the fullest.
At this rate MAX will eat you’ll. Everything is so safe. Both p and l need to to go all out. It’s ok if they falter.
With the current attitude the driver is gonna loose out.
I’m really disappointed. I see no aggression in the strategy. Stop being a looser

5 wins in 7. What else are they meant to do.

This first part of the season is the most crucial one! This is where big points are gained or lost and ultimately the championship! Piastri already lost at least 16 points (maybe even a win) in Australia…

Last year Max won the championship simply by winning every single race he had the opportunity to, at the start of the season before Red Bull lost their advantage!

This is exactly what McLaren should also be doing right now…because I expect the Barcelona TD to have an effect on their performance!

Any big updates planned ahead??

McLaren is more corporate-ish now. I don’t see the racing inheritance in it. That go for glory is no longer there. Max had it and is doing a brilliant job at it.

[Avocado]

McLaren is more corporate-ish now. I don’t see the racing inheritance in it. That go for glory is no longer there.

What?