2016 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, Thu 26 – Sun 29 May

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I think that in this moment drivers are the last of FER problems

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Sevach wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
There's more than 1 second between Alonso and Vettel best time (Q2), on Monaco. I don't think you can say it with no doubts
q2 doesnt determent starting order....q3 does
Well there's 9 tenths in Q3, i can say with certainty, Mclaren superchassis™ is a myth.[/quote]

i know mcl chassis is not there yet....but how much of those 9/10 in on 2 first straights of sector 1?
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ripper wrote:I think that in this moment drivers are the last of FER problems
why?
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Hamilton was a lap late to for the final quali. It was definitely because he was loaded with fuel for 5 laps. They knew he wouldn't come back for PITS and they knew when the US rubber would get into its optimum performance windows. Still, they loaded him with so much fuel.

And once again, Mercedes did everything to stop Lewis from getting ahead of Nico. Once again, rubbish excuses from Toto that BOTH CARS suffered issues. He should learn better excuses now.

Nico proves to be a ginger. He had the opportunity to do the job and he didn't.

So, Red Bull has come of age!!! Wow, that is so cool. Thanks for Ferrari for holding station and now they can step aside.

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matt_b wrote:Mercedes keep saying BOTH cars but it only affected ONE car in Q3 #-o
Feels like them already finding excuses because they know they will be slaughtered by fans and the press to have a technical problem influence the qualifying outcome again on Hamiltons car.

I don't want to think incompetence, much less sabotage (which would be unthinkable), but at some point, you do start to question why some of these problems start resurfacing again and again on the same car. And usually in Q3.

Sad reality is; even on P3, Hamilton's race will be limited by Mercedes favoring the driver ahead on strategy. And this will be key in Monaco because track position is everything.

In 2014, I was actually quite curious as I thought Hamilton had the pace to overlap Nico (who was struggling towards the end of his first stint), but then the crash and safety car came and it meant he was rescued with his pitstop and came out ahead. Had that not happened, I would have loved to see what happens - if it was possible to get by, by pitting a lap later, perhaps also with the luck of a slightly better pitstop. Tomorrow is going to be tricky - Ricciardo will surely limit the pace of both Mercedes - heck probably all cars within the top 10, so it will just be one giant traffic jam.

...until some teams behind will try to do the earliest possible pitstops, forcing the teams in front to react at some point. Tomorrow could very well dish out a win of circumstance, depending on how everything unfolds and where a gap surfaces to pit a car. And then there is Verstappen, starting behind in a very very quick car who will not simply follow them all. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a crash there waiting to happen that might turn the order up side down.

Considering this; if I was Ferrari, I would actually consider pitting a car after a few laps just to see if that could turn out to be an advantage later on in case a safety car happens, everyone besides you pits and you might end up ahead...
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GoranF1 wrote: i know mcl chassis is not there yet....but how much of those 9/10 in on 2 first straights of sector 1?
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Precisely 1.

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Because I think that they have more problems with technical staff (chassis/aero part) and understanding their own car, until they sort this problems out who drives the car isn't a huge issue.

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Sevach wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: i know mcl chassis is not there yet....but how much of those 9/10 in on 2 first straights of sector 1?
http://i.imgur.com/j8sWjUH.jpg

Precisely 1.
so the gap to fastest Ferrari is only 8/10 whit 80bhp less? Impressive.

EDIT : Alonso did 15.1 in Q2 didnt he?
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ripper wrote:Because I think that they have more problems with technical staff (chassis/aero part) and understanding their own car, until they sort this problems out who drives the car isn't a huge issue.
i agree.....but drivers dont shine either...
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Daniel Ricciardo's Pole Lap: https://youtu.be/w0HmqPNT02E
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I think Ric on SS for the race is going to cost him. Now he's going to be on the slowest rubber for ⅔ of the race (if Mercedes can keep their cars running)

If they have a clean start with 1 RIC, 2 and 3 the Merc boys, they just have to wait 15-20 laps until they can switch to SS. Then, with fresh rubber they can close the gap to RIC, who, when on US's will be behind them.

A three stop might be wise for them. SS - US US, as long as he can keep track position.

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GoranF1 wrote:
Sevach wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: i know mcl chassis is not there yet....but how much of those 9/10 in on 2 first straights of sector 1?
http://i.imgur.com/j8sWjUH.jpg

Precisely 1.
so the gap to fastest Ferrari is only 8/10 whit 80bhp less? Impressive.
You're impossible lol.

First, Honda isn't down that much on peak power, most of their problems is in race mode.
Second, 1,7 from pole on a short track where you go full throttle for 40% or less of the lap, top job Mclaren :D
Talk BS about Honda some more.

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Phil wrote: Sad reality is; even on P3, Hamilton's race will be limited by Mercedes favoring the driver ahead on strategy. And this will be key in Monaco because track position is everything.
I think his best bet is to jump Nico at the start.
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What the hell with Hamilton's car this year??? He had problem, what, 4 of the six races... He is turning into new Raikkonen when it comes to luck.

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Sevach wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
Sevach wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/j8sWjUH.jpg

Precisely 1.
so the gap to fastest Ferrari is only 8/10 whit 80bhp less? Impressive.
You're impossible lol.

First, Honda isn't down that much on peak power, most of their problems is in race mode.
Second, 1,7 from pole on a short track where you go full throttle for 40% or less of the lap, top job Mclaren :D
Talk BS about Honda some more.
by Hungary i expect this 8/10 gap to Ferrari to turn into 5/10 advantage due to amazing Honda update...and superior chassis. :mrgreen:
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