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[Sieper]

Interesting insights from Waché

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-wa ... /10724213/

he confirms upgrades have helped tyre management.

He's basically saying McLaren are slow now in Imola in the heat. But why?

Whose brakes were inspected last race? McL. They didn’t have to change anything.

But maybe they also weren’t allowed to keep everything the same

[Sergej]

Interesting insights from Waché

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-wa ... /10724213/

he confirms upgrades have helped tyre management.

He's basically saying McLaren are slow now in Imola in the heat. But why?

Even if he knows, he's not going to tell us

[CjC]

I disagree, I wouldn’t have said Mclaren have lost anything.
Look at the pace today that Mclaren had over everyone else but Max. It’s Max that have improved rather than Mclaren ‘loosing’ something.

Fact of the matter is Mclaren didn’t have a soul destroying advantage over everyone in Japan and Saudi, now that the Red Bull has successfully upgraded by a minimum of 2 tenths Max can match and beat the McLarens now.
Thermal deg is McLarens real advantage and that wasn’t a factor today

[Cs98]

I disagree, I wouldn’t have said Mclaren have lost anything.
Look at the pace today that Mclaren had over everyone else but Max. It’s Max that have improved rather than Mclaren ‘loosing’ something.

Fact of the matter is Mclaren didn’t have a soul destroying advantage over everyone in Japan and Saudi, now that the Red Bull has successfully upgraded by a minimum of 2 tenths Max can match and beat the McLarens now.
Thermal deg is McLarens real advantage and that wasn’t a factor today

It was for many cars, the question is why it wasn't for Verstappen. That will be the thing to keep your eyes on going forward, if RB truly has "found" something, or if it's just on certain tracks the deg is good, like Japan and Saudi.

[Vettel165]

2024 vs 2025 race pace comparison.

"Last year's race was much closer in pace: 3 teams within one tenth"
Surprisingly, Red bull gained vs McLaren, while Ferrari and Mercedes experienced a big setback in pace.

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I disagree, I wouldn’t have said Mclaren have lost anything.
Look at the pace today that Mclaren had over everyone else but Max. It’s Max that have improved rather than Mclaren ‘loosing’ something.

Fact of the matter is Mclaren didn’t have a soul destroying advantage over everyone in Japan and Saudi, now that the Red Bull has successfully upgraded by a minimum of 2 tenths Max can match and beat the McLarens now.
Thermal deg is McLarens real advantage and that wasn’t a factor today

It was for many cars, the question is why it wasn't for Verstappen. That will be the thing to keep your eyes on going forward, if RB truly has "found" something, or if it's just on certain tracks the deg is good, like Japan and Saudi.

isn't McLaren's tire advantage just more of a factor on rear limited tracks? That's the impression I had so far, at least - although I still didn't expect Verstappen to be that good today, of course.

[CjC]

I disagree, I wouldn’t have said Mclaren have lost anything.
Look at the pace today that Mclaren had over everyone else but Max. It’s Max that have improved rather than Mclaren ‘loosing’ something.

Fact of the matter is Mclaren didn’t have a soul destroying advantage over everyone in Japan and Saudi, now that the Red Bull has successfully upgraded by a minimum of 2 tenths Max can match and beat the McLarens now.
Thermal deg is McLarens real advantage and that wasn’t a factor today

It was for many cars, the question is why it wasn't for Verstappen. That will be the thing to keep your eyes on going forward, if RB truly has "found" something, or if it's just on certain tracks the deg is good, like Japan and Saudi.

Thought it was graining that’s was the issue today?

Horner alluded to it after the race, when the car has a good balance it won’t over heat the tyres.
In the build up to Imola Stella said that it’s a combination of car characteristics that give the McLaren good tyre life, the break ducts play their part of course but there isn’t a magic bullet inside them as internet speculation would suggest.
The problem with todays society, is that they listen to videos rather than to read an article, so the theories suggested in videos gain more traction than the printed interviews from the people who actually know what they are talking about.

[Rikhart]

Interesting insights from Waché

https://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-wa ... /10724213/

he confirms upgrades have helped tyre management.

He's basically saying McLaren are slow now in Imola in the heat. But why?

Ebb and flow in performance from circuit to circuit, also this is a Driver's track, and RB has the anomaly driving their car.

[Paa]

On the bright side: now the pit stop blunder from the sprint seems way less annoying. It actually looks almost irrelevant.

This is true

Aaaaand the pain is back! (also for Jeddah)

[AR3-GP]

Interesting.

[Juzh]

From the Wache interview:

We have a very difficult car because it works without any travel.

So basically saying car's suspension is super stiff? Anything more to read into this?

[TNTHead]

Is that translated well?

[Juzh]

Is that translated well?

Cant really say, would need an Italian speaker to confirm.

[CjC]

Solid assessment for Mark as always.
The circuit layout played to Red Bulls strengths and there wasn’t any thermal deg.
He also has a quote from Wache which explains the ‘super stiff’ suspension better

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/mark ... a-f1-2025/

[Sergej]

Is that translated well?

Cant really say, would need an Italian speaker to confirm.

Even in Italian what he meant is quite enigmatic, but I think the suspension stiffness interpretation is the most likely.