2016 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, Thu 26 – Sun 29 May

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GPR-A wrote:Hamilton was a lap late to for the final quali. It was definitely because he was loaded with fuel for 5 laps. They knew he wouldn't come back for PITS and they knew when the US rubber would get into its optimum performance windows. Still, they loaded him with so much fuel.

And once again, Mercedes did everything to stop Lewis from getting ahead of Nico. Once again, rubbish excuses from Toto that BOTH CARS suffered issues. He should learn better excuses now.

Nico proves to be a ginger. He had the opportunity to do the job and he didn't.

So, Red Bull has come of age!!! Wow, that is so cool. Thanks for Ferrari for holding station and now they can step aside.
ummm Monaco... the usual will return in canada i predict : )
does it rain tomorrow or not?

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GoranF1 wrote:
Sevach wrote:
GoranF1 wrote: so the gap to fastest Ferrari is only 8/10 whit 80bhp less? Impressive.
You're impossible lol.

First, Honda isn't down that much on peak power, most of their problems is in race mode.
Second, 1,7 from pole on a short track where you go full throttle for 40% or less of the lap, top job Mclaren :D
Talk BS about Honda some more.
by Hungary i expect this 8/10 gap to Ferrari to turn into 5/10 advantage due to amazing Honda update...and superior chassis. :mrgreen:
I'll be sure to mock you then =D>

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Sevach wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:
Sevach wrote:
You're impossible lol.

First, Honda isn't down that much on peak power, most of their problems is in race mode.
Second, 1,7 from pole on a short track where you go full throttle for 40% or less of the lap, top job Mclaren :D
Talk BS about Honda some more.
by Hungary i expect this 8/10 gap to Ferrari to turn into 5/10 advantage due to amazing Honda update...and superior chassis. :mrgreen:
I'll be sure to mock you then =D>
8) 8) 8)
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Jolle wrote:I think Ric on SS for the race is going to cost him. Now he's going to be on the slowest rubber for ⅔ of the race (if Mercedes can keep their cars running)

If they have a clean start with 1 RIC, 2 and 3 the Merc boys, they just have to wait 15-20 laps until they can switch to SS. Then, with fresh rubber they can close the gap to RIC, who, when on US's will be behind them.
I think so too (that SS might cost him). But there's something to consider when the Merc boys pit and that is, depending on how bunched up the field is, they will be in traffic, so even after pitting, they might not be able to close the gap to Ricciardo.

Historically, Monaco was somewhat predictable because the fastest car was on pole, then drove on into the distance and usually also had better tire wear. Meaning that they pitted give or take at the same time like most within the top 10 and thus found themselves in clean air once they pitted (or still in the lead). This year will be different, because we have a car on slower tires on pole against a stack of cars on ultra softs behind. Track position is key, so I am assuming they will all be bunched up behind Ricciardo (bunched up = moderate gap of 1 to 2 seconds) and they will all be waiting for a window of clean air to pit. If I was RedBull and Ricciardo, I might try to bunch up the field a bit more to make certain that any team that will pit will end up in traffic and then held up. It's going to be fascinating to watch.

Basically, the aim will be to save tires in the beginning and limit the pace of the cars behind. Then when the Merc boys pit, to up the pace to whatever is possible to keep the gap, worst case maintain it or increase it. Then pit when you feel comfortable. If Merc gets into clean air and pits earlier, the game is over for Ricciardo IMO.

For Mercedes, they might split strategies. Meaning pit Hamilton early and Rosberg late. Or the other way around and see if RedBull reacts.
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small OT - if you're just watching GP2 right now, just listen to the sound of those cars starting on the grid. feels like motoracing! F1? Not sure..

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There's an interesting interview to VET on Motorsport.it he says that he found a good balance on FP3 and Q1, but then the car became worse in Q2 and even more in Q3 and he was sliding a lot . Is it possible that FER car has a very small optimum setup window and has problems with small temperature change or small track grip condition?

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Does anyone believe a word that comes out of Toto Wolffs mouth anymore, it just sounds like waffle of the highest order! Great lap by Ric, doubt Renault, neyTag Heuer will get much of the credit though, allthough they should, seems they`ve taken a half decent jump with the engine especially in driveability...

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Ricciardo might have pace on SS, his SS lap is just 3 tenths off what Merc was doing at the time, he might go away from the Mercs.

This year might be better but last year there was a doubt wether undercutting would work due to how long it took to get the tires in optimum range.
Of course back then the change was to a very hard for Monaco soft tire, but even the SS won't be hugely fast straight out of the box if Ricciardo's tires still have life on them.

Merc should split, pit one guy extremely early and force Ricciardo to respond and wait a bit with the other.
That is unless the SC forces their hand.

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ripper wrote:There's an interesting interview to VET on Motorsport.it he says that he found a good balance on FP3 and Q1, but then the car became worse in Q2 and even more in Q3 and he was sliding a lot . Is it possible that FER car has a very small optimum setup window and has problems with small temperature change or small track grip condition?
Sounds like they have issues with temperature changes - the temp went up 5 degrees in Q3 apparently- and managing the temps was a big part of their focus at the test.

Seems like this solidifies that this is what's causing their quali issues (remember in Bahrain on final runs when temps dropped and merc suddenly found half a sec but Ferrari found nothing) but also that they're far from getting on top of the issue.

Disappointing because Vettel was with the other 3 to that point and then went slower when everyone else sped up.

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giantfan10 wrote: does it rain tomorrow or not?
a lot of rain expected, should ease before the start though

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GPR-A wrote:Hamilton was a lap late to for the final quali. It was definitely because he was loaded with fuel for 5 laps. They knew he wouldn't come back for PITS and they knew when the US rubber would get into its optimum performance windows. Still, they loaded him with so much fuel.

And once again, Mercedes did everything to stop Lewis from getting ahead of Nico. Once again, rubbish excuses from Toto that BOTH CARS suffered issues. He should learn better excuses now.

Nico proves to be a ginger. He had the opportunity to do the job and he didn't.

So, Red Bull has come of age!!! Wow, that is so cool. Thanks for Ferrari for holding station and now they can step aside.
Mercedes think they still have the privilege (Extra engine power) to continue this sort of misconducting with Hamilton and Ferrari only show that they are right. But I bet as soon as it will become clear that Rosberg can't finish the job, I will like to see Toto and cie faces. if Ferrari can't maybe RBR will show up.
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Tauri_J wrote:
giantfan10 wrote: does it rain tomorrow or not?
a lot of rain expected, should ease before the start though
Light rain would be perfect because I dont want to see a red flag(I looking at you Charlie).

Awesome lap by Ricciardo, he has the fastest guy today. Good lap by Nico, a very good one. Very bad luck for Lewis he could have been second today.

Great lap by Sainz, he is doing an awesome job and his long stints are between the best ones!.

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GPR-A wrote:
Nico proves to be a ginger. He had the opportunity to do the job and he didn't.

So, Red Bull has come of age!!! Wow, that is so cool. Thanks for Ferrari for holding station and now they can step aside.
Nonsense. Ricciardo was the best today, this lap was imposible to improve. Nico has done the best he could have done today.

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Unfortunate Q2 for Max V. , Great Q3 for Daniel R., however with the pressure of Nico (king of Monaco) wanting his 4th win in a row at Monaco I doubt Daniel will be able to fight him off under race conditions, and as long as Lewis doesn't get stupid and take himself and Nico out again, Nico R. should win the race, we'll see tomorrow

Go Nico Go!!!
Go Nico Go!!!

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Vasconia wrote:
GPR-A wrote:
Nico proves to be a ginger. He had the opportunity to do the job and he didn't.

So, Red Bull has come of age!!! Wow, that is so cool. Thanks for Ferrari for holding station and now they can step aside.
Nonsense. Ricciardo was the best today, this lap was imposible to improve. Nico has done the best he could have done today.
Lewis was up in Sector 1 and if that was a normal qualifying, he could have been on pole. You are right, THAT IS ALL NICO CAN DO !!! Just goes on to prove that, when competition heats up, THIS IS ALL HE CAN DO, be second rate!