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Valtteri Bottas lead the Austrian Grand Prix from start to finish, but it was behind him that all the action happened. Multiple retirements and collisions caused just 11 cars at the finish, with Leclerc and Norris surprisingly joining Bottas on the podium.
Yes. I didn't think that part. But others still didn't protest the system in the other hand. maybe because of redbull did.Restomaniac wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 09:56I think it was more the case that they didn’t want a situation where they use it too and Ferrari or others throw the protest instead. Better to get clarification before getting in a place where you’re directly effected.etusch wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 09:32I think Redbull don't need any clerification to use it if their first option is to use it. I think Redbull also have system ready to use but they prefer to prevent mercedes from using it in the first place. Because mercedes worked on it more than 1 year by now. But they had 2 months or a bit more. If mercedes use it mercedes' das system will be better than redbull's one, but if mercedes banned to use it redbull's front end will be better than mercedes.
Yep it was RedBull driving it.etusch wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 10:04Yes. I didn't think that part. But others still didn't protest the system in the other hand. maybe because of redbull did.Restomaniac wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 09:56I think it was more the case that they didn’t want a situation where they use it too and Ferrari or others throw the protest instead. Better to get clarification before getting in a place where you’re directly effected.etusch wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 09:32
I think Redbull don't need any clerification to use it if their first option is to use it. I think Redbull also have system ready to use but they prefer to prevent mercedes from using it in the first place. Because mercedes worked on it more than 1 year by now. But they had 2 months or a bit more. If mercedes use it mercedes' das system will be better than redbull's one, but if mercedes banned to use it redbull's front end will be better than mercedes.
I thought the reason everyone said it would be banned was due to the reg changes going into 2021.langedweil wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 01:48Guess it does ... they will suffer way less tire deg, and therefor will remain in charge of strategic options.
I'd say (on no grounds at all) it won't be a mighty speedboost, but the smaller tire deg will prove to be decisive.
Although legal now for 2020, the fact it's not any longer as from 2021 says enough about being in the spirit of racing. Merc was smart to pull FIA in at an early stage, effectively force FIA into a position they could no longer deny the use as they exactly mapped out for Merc how it could/would be legal.
Smart play, great engineering, heads off .. but it still doesn't feel right to be used.
https://www.fia.com/regulation/category/11010.4.2 The re-alignment of the steered wheels must be uniquely defined by driver input to a single
steering wheel permitted to have only one degree of freedom, which must be rotational, and
the relationship between the angle of each steered wheel to the angle of the steering wheel
must be a strictly monotonic function.
DAS was outlawed as part of new set of regulations that was to come in effect from 2021. Now that those regulations have been deferred to 2022, DAS will still be allowed for 2021.Restomaniac wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 10:13I thought the reason everyone said it would be banned was due to the reg changes going into 2021.langedweil wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 01:48Guess it does ... they will suffer way less tire deg, and therefor will remain in charge of strategic options.
I'd say (on no grounds at all) it won't be a mighty speedboost, but the smaller tire deg will prove to be decisive.
Although legal now for 2020, the fact it's not any longer as from 2021 says enough about being in the spirit of racing. Merc was smart to pull FIA in at an early stage, effectively force FIA into a position they could no longer deny the use as they exactly mapped out for Merc how it could/would be legal.
Smart play, great engineering, heads off .. but it still doesn't feel right to be used.
The key question is that because of the reg freeze due to coronavirus which means that they don’t change until 2022 does that then allow DAS in 2021?
The 2021 technical regulations contain the following new paragraph:Restomaniac wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 10:13I thought the reason everyone said it would be banned was due to the reg changes going into 2021.langedweil wrote: ↑04 Jul 2020, 01:48Guess it does ... they will suffer way less tire deg, and therefor will remain in charge of strategic options.
I'd say (on no grounds at all) it won't be a mighty speedboost, but the smaller tire deg will prove to be decisive.
Although legal now for 2020, the fact it's not any longer as from 2021 says enough about being in the spirit of racing. Merc was smart to pull FIA in at an early stage, effectively force FIA into a position they could no longer deny the use as they exactly mapped out for Merc how it could/would be legal.
Smart play, great engineering, heads off .. but it still doesn't feel right to be used.
The key question is that because of the reg freeze due to coronavirus which means that they don’t change until 2022 does that then allow DAS in 2021?
The regulations for next year have been modified, they are basically this years with several changes, including the change to prohibit DAS. The FIA website even highlights the changes for you by using different colours.
It looks comparable indeed. Over 11 laps on softs, on average Perez was about 1 tenth per lap quicker than Hamilton last year.
