2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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AR3-GP wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:28
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24 May 2025, 17:25

don't know tbh, P4 is almost 3 tenths ahead, don't know where they could find them
We did not see, but Verstappens's S2 was yellow and he lost like 0.5 there, so probably there was a mistake.
With a bit more margin, he could have just back off there, go for a coold down lap and then have an other go. But leaving it for so late did not make this possible.
Wide in the hairpin and the turn before the hairpin. Probably mistakes but he sent 18.2 first sector (2 tenths up on anything previous) and probably killed the C6. A case of going much faster in 1 sector punishing the others.
Yeah I suspected this.
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I forgot HAM impeded VER. Hope that's a penalty and can promote Max to P4.
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Negative it wasnt a mistake, I was watching the onboard the car was just sliding around in s2. No grip at all on the softs. On mediums the tyres would survive into s3.

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On the positive side, Oscar is 3rd, the more McLaren duo alternate the better is for the championship.

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Vettel165 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:32
Negative it wasnt a mistake, I was watching the onboard the car was just sliding around in s2. No grip at all on the softs. On mediums the tyres would survive into s3.
probably dead tyres after that 18.2 in S1

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Vettel165 wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:32
Negative it wasnt a mistake, I was watching the onboard the car was just sliding around in s2. No grip at all on the softs. On mediums the tyres would survive into s3.
Marko just more or less said the same on German Sky. Just lost the grip in Q3, but they were never going to be able to set times like that anyway. According to him, pole was not within reach today.

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The car just bounces more the harder you push, it never settles as quickly as the MCL or the FER and this has been a characteristic that has been present since the beginning of the regs.
The sector 2 is a killer, Max never got anywhere close to the top cars, it's slower to rotate and to get on the throttle.

I thought the RB21 would be an improvement here because the slow corner performance has been decent so far but the bumps are a killer.

Plenty to play for still, could be P4 with HAM penalty. Lucky safety cars and pits could make a podium possible.

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I can take p3, p4 tomorrow, but only if we strike back in Barcelona. Being around 20-25 points behind the leader.

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Yeah, it's just an inherent limitations of the RB series of cars. It's really a testament to Mclaren as they were much worse than Red Bull in slow speed before they transformed the car last year to have much better balance and simply performance on every type of corner.

I think a podium is possible with some luck assuming HAM gets the penalty. Leclerc might also make things spicy at the start with Lando, although McLaren seem to have setup the car to be just very very good at starts, just like the Mercedes.
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It could be interesting if the Mclarens have to double stack the pits tomorrow.

I think gameplan is just to try and not lost a ton of points to Piastri. They could end up with a no score if they try to be heros on the pitwall.
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Sh1t quali.. how much time did ver lose in s2 on second lap compared to his first run?

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f1isgood wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:38
Yeah, it's just an inherent limitations of the RB series of cars. It's really a testament to Mclaren as they were much worse than Red Bull in slow speed before they transformed the car last year to have much better balance and simply performance on every type of corner.

I think a podium is possible with some luck assuming HAM gets the penalty. Leclerc might also make things spicy at the start with Lando, although McLaren seem to have setup the car to be just very very good at starts, just like the Mercedes.
Overtake in turn 1 is almost impossible, unless Lando has the worst start which is just as unlikely to happen. The spiciness will only come from people gambling and pitting on lap 1. I wonder if Max will take that gamble, probably not. Most of the front runners will play it safe and wait for a safety car to pit, if not the strategy teams will be working overtime which might help Red bull as they will be mostly focused on Max. I expect the front runners to push this year to try to open up gaps in the midfield. Quite excited to see how the strategies work out tomorrow, rare thing to say for a Monaco race day :lol:

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Juzh wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:46
Sh1t quali.. how much time did ver lose in s2 on second lap compared to his first run?
33.8 S2 on the final run. 33.6 on the banker.
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Think 2 to 3 tenths off pole was possible with a proper final lap. 7 tenths is just exaggerated gap.
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f1isgood wrote:
24 May 2025, 17:49
Think 2 to 3 tenths off pole was possible with a proper final lap. 7 tenths is just exaggerated gap.
I don't see it on the C6. I think 1.10.6 was the maximum. That was the pace from the end of Q2. Same as the banker. Then when he pushed S1 (2 tenths) the tires were fried in S2.

He would have gone quicker on the medium imo, but not enough for pole.
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